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Slightly OT, but here's one thing I just found out about Melda plugins, which really impressed me... I was watching this: ... so I tried it out for myself using a 9.5Khz sine wave through a range of plugins, e.g. Waves, Softube etc. All of them exhibited the same behaviour shown in the video - I was getting frequencies popping up as low as 440Hz. However, ALL Melda productions have this upsampling facility: At 1x, I get the same artefacts as other plugins, but setting the up-sampling to 4x or more completely removes any of these artefacts. I don't know of many other plugins that have this facility.

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Ouch that studio looks uncomfortable and seems a little drab . OK . Fixed. Kenny

And that gets you SampleTank 4 SE...which sells for $149.99!

I'm not saying that Larry is definitely wrong, just that both vendors mentioned here show a much different price for upgrading MPS1. https://www.jrrshop.com/izotope-music-production-suite-upgrade-mpb I have a MPB2 which contains O7A for example, but it is one licence for the bundle. Technically I do not have an O7A licence. In your case you did. Maybe semantics, but I'm just questioning why they would show a different (and considerably higher) price when people can just buy this instead and get the same thing? One thing for JRR (or whoever) to sell you the upgrade at that price, but I wonder what will happen when it's actually registered with Izotope if there is no specific Advanced licence? Just trying to save Larry from the voodoo dolls if it turns out that people have bought on his say so and it doesn't work that way.

$29! For the 25 mini key model.

JRRshop sell the MPS 2.1 crossgrade for $125 from ANY advanced product. Well, I had Ozone 6 Advanced and Nectar 2 Production Suite in my account. Worked fine.

Add an instrument to CbB..I used Arturia Jup-8V. I dragged it from the browser using the defaults which makes separate audio and MIDI tracks. Add Ripchord to CbB - I did this from the browser as above. Make sure on the VST properties of these plugins that Enable MIDI Input and Output are selected (they were by default for me). On the instrument track (e.g. Jup-8V) select the MIDI input as Ripchord MIDI Omni and make sure you are monitoring the instrument to be able to hear its output. You need to make a Ripchord preset to do anything (or load one from the community - requires a free account with them). For a quick test.... Click on EDIT in the Ripchord UI. Click on middle C on the input keyboard and a C Major triad or whatever you want on the output keyboard (C, E, G). You can set up anything; this is just a quick test. Name the preset and chord and switch back to PLAY mode. Now when you play that note you will hear whatever notes you have set up on the output played on the instrument. You may need to set your keyboard as input for the Ripchord MIDI track if not already or just use the UI input keyboard.

There are a few threads on Play's issue with fast bouncing. Starting with Play 5.0 they changed how Play streams data which can result in release tails not playing depending on how much of the samples are in memory and how fast the storage device is. EastWest support are pretty much determined to ignore this major failure and will run you in circles with blaming your computer/your hard drive/your DAW when it's really their software. You may be able to work around it by loading the samples fully into ram, placing the samples on a very fast SSD and not fast bouncing any tracks. But even in the best conditions it is still broken and can and will manifest. There is no 100% reliable solution really, no matter what other users may claim. Recent versions of Play 6 using the VST3 version only seems to work slightly better for me but it is still possible to get it to fail. If you have the ram try turning off "Stream from Disk" in the Play menu. You may also be able to adjust the cache settings for your drive in preferences/streaming (though there are bugs there also, for example on my computers that option lists no drives you might have more luck). All that and using a slow bounce/render can usually get you a viable recording. Rolling back to a 4.x version of Play can also work but cuts you off from all the other features added to Play 5 and 6.

Sweet deal indeed. Thanks, JRR and Uncle E, for making it a smooth purchase process. I’m ready to play.

Looks like you have to be careful and select the most expensive of your target product as your initial purchase. There are some "nice to haves" but no essentials for me. The Leslie collections look interesting, but I have several other Leslie emulations already, same applies to the tape machines. I will sit on this for a while.

I have been trying to get to grips with more advanced audio editing functions but ultimately I often find myself not knowing what function it is I need and then have to search through quite traditional menus. It would be interested to know if there could be some more user friendly outcome based rather than process based pop up menus. e.g. if I want to match tempos/line up two tracks (I am struggling with this!) I select both tracks could it not just ask me in simpleton terms whether I want to do that, or x, y or z and then the software does the job behind the scenes (as it has all the tools to do it). Or rather than all the menus at the top and then the separate menus in the project itself. Could it be configured to have a simple "Timing" button and then it does the trick? This is just one example. Just an idea...I'm not a computer person really just a musician. EDT

A Flattened 3rd Just a little fun in a a minor scale. Thanks for listening.

See you do get it! Maybe you have what it takes, after all.

Usually more than enough to run CbB and the VST scanner. There are some users who must run as administrator (a higher setting) in order to use XP era plug-ins that write to protected parts of the registry or plug-ins, such as those created using synthedit, that write to areas of the HD which require elevated privileges.

we had a few good ones in August (Summer Strummer) in the past and some good ones in October. Hope the ST4 & Syntronic will have a good Group buy this fall.

$39.90 https://www.adsrsounds.com/product/software/vocal-production-bundle-plugin-course-sample-pack/?_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJjY2xhcnJ5MTIyNzAwQGhvdG1haWwuY29tIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSnlVdzNaIn0%3D

Sure push me over the edge. I could use all the help making " Tunes" 😂

The Lava Lamp Genie is here to grant your wish . Kenny

I have MPS2.1 and when I installed it yesterday, it registered Ozone 8 Advance, Neutron 3 Advanced separately. However, I only have a serial number for MPS 2.1 Oh.. there's a new Nectar out now too, 3.1

Hi. I believe this is a very good cover even though I must confess I never have been a huge PF fan. Perhaps the reason could be that PF music kind of demands certain musical intelligence to know how to respect and enjoy it and I lack it?

You’re right to do so, as iZotope is infamous for their upgrade and crossgrade pricing tactics! Also, I’m pretty sure Ozone 9 is around the corner, so I guess this is the last time we can get the MPS crossgrade at its lowest price. Next time will be in two years or so.

grey matter matters keep it all in the space you have https://www.soundclick.com/html5/v4/player.cfm?songID=13905993

If that's what somebody who sucks sounds like, I wish I sucked like that, too.

I've found that changing Play to stream from ram rather than disc fixes this.

A Few Things: it can be one or 2 or all the above 1st - When using a laptop with you DAW, the internal hard drives can be at a speed of 5200rpm in most cases. So you should get an external drive that spins at 7200rpm or higher, as 7200rpm s the recommended speed for hard drives. 2nd - Lower your sound card buffers to its lowest possible settings. 3rd - Try using ASIO driver modes, if you are using WDM and make sure you are using the most current version of drivers for your audio interface 4th - If you are using any sort of plugin in your DAW, they can be causing the latency as a lot of plugins have hidden buffers.

Good question. My guess is the price you actually pay will determine your choices.

Whoah, just back from holiday and there's soooo much to catch up on! Larry has been super busy 👍🏻 I have been keeping an eye on the forums on my phone but you can only do so much while sitting on a beach with sand blowing in your face 🏖️. I will probably go with JRR also Fleer. I nearly did the MPS upgrade last time but it worked out way cheaper for me to just upgrade from N2A to N3A. So the only things I don't have in MPS 2.1 are Nectar 3, VocalSynth 2 and RX 7 Standard but it's probably still worth it for those three things alone at around 100 GBP. I recently used RX 7 Elements on a song with around 28 stacked vocal tracks, each recorded in a fairly noisy environment (school) with an RX plugin on every track and I was impressed at how well it worked and the low CPU hit. So I wouldn't mind upgrading to Standard (as Larry mentions, upgrade to Advanced is still too much money). I guess I could also re-sell the Celemony Melodyne 4 Essential license to bring the price down a little more. Probably also worth doing this crossgrade to lower the price on any future MPS 3 upgrades etc.

I find that the iZotope Portal, even with their instant 'wait! here's a coupon' always costs me significantly more than JRRShop or other discounters. The same $125ish deal mentioned in the OP is $141.55 on iZotopes Product Portal (that's with a 5% off coupon offered when they got worried about my procrastinating to purchase). Hopefully YMMV, but I've stopped even looking there except to get a base price reference.

no SampleTank or Syntronic? On the sidelines for this one.

Robert Palmer, "Bad Case of Loving You" Doctor Doctor, gimme the news I got a bad case of lovin' you No pill's gonna cure my ill I got a bad case of lovin' you

You ain't seen nothing yet. B.T.O.

Dr. Feelgood -Crue

Put the Lime in the Coconut by Harry Nilsson I said "doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take?" I said "doctor, to relieve this belly ache"

Nice Bjorn!

The list is actually more impressive than what Noel indicates. In addition to writing in my Sound on Sound column about elastique pitch stretching and Scan in Sandbox, I also covered updates Noel didn't mention, like the Clean Audio Folder enhancements, note draw duration buttons, aim assist enhancements, the streamlined export function that simplifies exporting stems, and some of the other improvements that have been made. So, I don't think there's any need to convince SOS's editors that Cakewalk's updates deserve coverage, because it's already happening on a monthly basis. And as a writer, it certainly is convenient that Cakewalk still keeps doing updates - there's always something to write about However, I don't always write about enhancements. For example, I just submitted a column on how to do VCA fader-like functions using CbB's existing feature set.

Learning more each day about Gullfoss. I have been working through a lot of misconceptions based on early experiences; especially my reference to using Pink Noise. While this is a technique many have used in the past as a mix and balance tool Gullfoss definitely does not go there. I am still wrapping my head around this as I know many other Gullfoss users are. I found a very fascinating article recently interviewing Andreas Tell who is the lead developer for Gullfoss and it is a very good read full of a lot of info to help all of us to gain more insight on this amazing plugin. https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/pro-sound-news-blog/gullfoss-inventor-andreas-tell-tells-all

mega dittos

Damn Izotope! They always find a way to tempt when I have already decided to wait for another versions... 😞 Probably their AI included in plugins evolved and now is also helping them in sales 😵

O8A alone is worth the money!

Sound on sound has done plenty of reviews of cake software. But there is nothing new to review, really, since bandlab bought out the software. That was the last big news to hang any writing on, and the last cake review I know of was in tape op talking about just that. If rapture pro 2 was released, or boardwalk by bandlab with large additions, the magazines would run reviews. But it it hard to write a new car review if all they’ve done is add new tires to last years model, no matter how smoothly it now rides. And as for the old complaint about money buying reviews, any publisher will look to review new products from advertisers. That is how the BUSINESS works. That doesn’t mean they will say 2+2= 5 or this $5 pre is a neve etc. If too many readers buy crap because of lies, guess what, they don’t buy your mag and your ad rates go down. Doubling your losses. That is how things work, not slipping money no one has under the table so a pet writer can waste their time trying to turn lead to gold. It is the same for any review writing, be it daws or cars or better home and gardens. So any conspiracy theories about payola is a an idiotic trope. Please stop. if bandlab releases new products they’ll get reviewed. Until there is something good to review more than stability fixes and ergonomics, any review would simply be plowing the same field. @ Ps writing on an iPad precludes a lot of easy editing, as you can tell from the copy.

I enjoyed that. Thanks for posting.

A few more quality free 64-bit instruments that I have not seen listed here yet are: Vember Audio Surge Synth (subtractive/wavtable hybrid): https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/ Dexed - FM plugin synth (closely modeled on the Yamaha DX7): https://asb2m10.github.io/dexed/ XLN Audio Addictive Keys - Studio Grand demo (4 octaves, 3 mic perspectives, no time limits): https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive_keys/instrument/studio_grand PG-8X 2.0 - VST instrument plug-in, inspired by the Roland JX-8P: https://sites.google.com/site/mlvst0/

Jesse, listening to your songs is like going on an expedition. They all sound different and they go to places that you never seemed to have explored before. You're like the 21 century's version of Frank Zappa. 😉John B

At the bare minimum, after you get it, if you don't like them or won't use them, use the always helpful "Delete" button!

Ain't nobody knows what that means

@EDT, I think I like your idea a lot but I want to make sure I understand your idea. Am I correct that what you're suggesting is task wizards? I'm defining a task wizard as a pop-up window with step-by-step instructions describing how to perform a task. Ideally there should be one pop-up window for each task step. Each pop-up window should also include a hyperlink that opens another pop-up window that details how to perform the step. Let's say you want to perform a specific task like copy midi between tracks. You would navigate to the task wizard menu and select "copy midi". A pop-up window would state: "highlight the midi in a track to be copied." If you don't know how to highlight then you can click on the word highlight and a new pop-up window opens that describes how to highlight. There will be a pop-up window to guide you through each step needed to copy midi between tracks. Does that describe and give an example of your suggestion?