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Indie Melodica is a Kontakt Player library we originally sent out as a holiday gift for all Orange Tree Samples customers, and now we’re making it publicly available, free of charge. As long as there are serial numbers left (there are 4,330 at the time of writing this), you can get a copy here. The library licenses the free Kontakt Player, so you don’t need to own the full version of Kontakt to use it. Indie Melodica includes two mic options to select between for different tonal colorations, and was recorded in a dry booth. That way you have more flexibility when it comes to adding reverb or room simulation to blend better with other instruments. The instrument features our proprietary phase locking technology, allowing you to smoothly morph between dynamics without encountering any phase cancellation. Being able to morph between dynamics means you can control how each note and phrase is articulated in real-time, rather than having to use keyswitches to select pre-recorded articulations for crescendos, accented notes, etc. All the samples are seamlessly looped, so you don’t need to worry about a note unexpectedly ending during its sustain. Furthermore, the library’s interface contains several parameters to dial in how the instrument responds. For example, you can adjust how much velocity affects the speed at which notes are attacked, or even control to what degree playing multiple notes thins out the instrument’s overall dynamic, a characteristic that happens on a real melodica. To get the library, head over to its page on our website to add it to your cart. Although the website will have you go through the checkout process, you won’t need to enter any payment information. You’ll instantly receive the serial number afterward, and the download for the library will get added to your account on our website. Once all the serial numbers have been claimed, Indie Melodica will no longer be available on the website, so don’t miss out on this chance to pick up a copy!

IBTL? Bandlab has been very patient with content of this thread - 15% excitement, 10% joy, 15% anger, 15% whine, 7% confusion, 9% ice, 27% nonsense & filler. but as soon as the content hits 20% anger, 20% whine or 30% nonsense they'll probably lock the thread. Note: the %s are an off the cuff guestamate based off of reading content. No statistical or scientific process was used. Those disagreeing with my figures are free to disagree and post comments on my methods, my family's genetics, or complain bitterly - all of which I reserve the right to either ignore or laugh at. *Apologies if this comes off rude, my humor can be a bit edgy at times - I'm going to take a break, grab a sandwich & coffee.

Last night I met a fellow who's been playing piano for 32 years, with a penchant for honky-tonk. He's the bartender and owner of last night's venue. 32 years on the keys, but get this: he only took up the piano at age 60. I can only hope that I have as many intact brain cells at 92. Interesting guy. I suspect he has mob ties. Meeting him was the highlight of the evening. Lake City Way used to be a major highway into and out of Seattle. Nowadays it's one of those too-busy "stroads", a daily rush hour traffic jam and site of many accidents. Reminds me of Hayward, CA with a few more trees. But sandwiched between the chain retailers and car dealerships there sits an anachronistic anomaly that bills itself as "Seattle's Last Roadhouse". Built in 1932 and looking like it hasn't seen many major improvements since then, it's a local landmark. I've driven past it hundreds of times and never really given it a second thought beyond "you don't see places like that anymore". There's no readerboard, just a small hand-made sign out front that reads "Live Music Tonight". This place is unusual for several reasons. They're only open one day a week, from 7:30 till midnight. They don't serve food or mixed drinks, just beer and wine. It exists solely for live music. Guests pay $10 to get in. There's a large dance floor but most of the patrons sit and listen to the band, and applaud enthusiastically. As well as generously feed the tip jar. It was a treat. Looking forward to going back there. Owner John Spaccoratelli:

(There fixed it for you) BandLab has more than “paid” Henry’s debt to all of us that bought “lifetime” updates. (Anyone that doesn’t see that “free” updates for the “life” of any product is an unrealistic business model; well, there’s one born every minute…) Its time to “man up” and throw some coin in the hat and keep this going forward. CbB is Sonar (always has been) and now will be labeled Sonar again. Your cwp and wrk projects are safe. Two questions remain: 1) How long will CbB work after “Sonar” is released? 2) How much will Sonar cost? (my guess is that whatever the price you will have a 12 month payment option. Not really a “subscription”, just a time payment “plan”) but what do I know? so we can all stop wringing our collective hands and suggesting what the company should do, et cetera, et cetera. And please stay on topic! The thread downstairs was closed because some just couldn’t behave in a civil manner. That is all… t

Get it here https://d16.pl/frontier

When Gibson thing happened, it felt like a storm. Most of us were worried that Cakewalk was to be pieced, sold for scrap and forgotten. Yet, Meng & team proved many of us wrong. Cakewalk became a much better software than it ever was. Five years of pretty intense updates and fixes, amazing support by staff, including Noel himself + retaining status of one of the best virtual music communities in the world. Since it is confirmed that there will be several models, including perpetual licenses and subscription, I really don't see what some people are whining about. Last five years was a joy ride. Given all that had been done so far, I have a feeling, pricing model will be a very fair one and development will progress at faster pace. Thank you Meng, Noel and Bakers for 5 years of fun!

That feature is only in the new version of Sonar

Chris, Cakewalk is a division of BandLab Technologies and a corporate decision was made to have us operate independently under our own brand. We are now a multi-product company and have two products Sonar and Next with more to come in the future. Calling the product Cakewalk wouldn't make much sense. Cakewalk by Cakewalk? Lol Also, there were numerous cases in the past where BandLab users were confused with the old branding and thought CbB was the BandLab web DAW (which they have now renamed to BandLab Studio). The new branding will alleviate issues like that.

Refer to my post. Do you really think we haven't considered people not running 4K displays? Why waste your time speculating on what you havent seen yet.

Fixed.

https://soundbytesmag.net/freebie-of-the-month-three-advanced-mixing-tutorials/ The link provided in mag does not provide me any e-books . Say me if it works for u https://thomasjuth.teachable.com/

What's the big deal? That software compressor is a model of a piece of hardware designed 70 years ago that hasn't had substantial revisions since. And the emulation is pretty good. It's not going to stop working. There was an update earlier this year to my longtime go-to FET-style compressor (PSP FetPressor). Cool, I thought. Maybe they're adding some modern features such as a dry/wet mix knob. Nope. The "update" was that they were making it dependent on Pace. Big Nope. I backrevved to the previous version. If they never update it again it won't bother me at all. It's great as-is.

I think it's good to remember that CbB was pretty much SPlat with a few months worth of fixes in the first release... look at it now. And actual meaningful additions too, not just another bundled synth or sample library to keep the upper management happy. (Not to say a great synth or library is a worthless addition, mind you, but having core improvements to the app will beat that out every time for me)

I upgraded both of my computers from Win 10 to 11. One PC is running an i7 2600 K, and the other is Threadripper 1950x. Both are on the unsupported list. Google "How to install windows 11 on unsupported Hardware", or a similarly worded search. There are many sites with this info. The method I used involved altering one file in the Win 11 setup executable. This worked perfectly. I did the upgrades in January of this year and have had no problems. Also, I still receive Microsoft updates.

Run the Product Portal to update

Can't wait for the Mac version, guys!!!

Yes. We are "Cakewalk" as an independent brand within the BandLab Technologies group. As Cakewalk, we have just announced two products: Next and Sonar. 👍

@Bruno de Souza Lino is technically right! @Misha apologies for the indirect response. I conflated pricing and granting permanent unlocks, viewing the latter as a what-if-I-don't-pay scenario, because we don't see a future in which your old projects wouldn't open in Sonar. We've been solid there for decades. But in a catastrophic future scenario, like the company shutting down yielding no ownership of the software, we'd do our best to provide a means of unlocking the core software. Obviously there would be limitations concerning any 3rd party licenses in that scenario. Hope that helps!

I would bet that Meng, if he saw the resentment from the folks who are angry about their $199 spent in 2016 with a company dissolved by Gibson in 2017 that Meng didn't purchase (he merely purchased some of their assets) that he didn't anticipate this kind of reaction and venom directed at him. Seriously folks, from Meng's perspective, he just spent 5 years building what he expected was goodwill with this community and never charged us a cent and there are people angry with him about $199 they spent in 2016 with a company dissolved in 2017 -- a company that Meng didn't buy and an offer that Meng had absolutely nothing to do with. He's only invested money in buying some of the assets of that company from Gibson in 2018 and has never seen a penny of our money-- no revenue for his investment--yet still, some people folks feel morally justified that he should be giving them free product for life??? Other companies bought assets from that fire sale too. But you likely wouldn't hold them responsible for the business agreements made by the defunct Cakewalk Inc owned by Gibson because they're not using the Cakewalk website, trademarks or any of the software code from the former Cakewalk Inc. Bandlab doesn't have a legal or ethical responsibility to take on an offer between Cakewalk Inc/Gibson and its customers. Bandlab didn't buy Cakewalk Inc, just some of their assets. And someone taking their vitriol and directing it at a fellow forum member for merely making those points and misrepresenting a completely unrelated situation between me and a sample developer who didn't provide any customer support for his products for 11 months who made personal, defamatory attacks on his customer (me) when the customer shared that story publicly is not the moral equivalent of this scenario and it's an insult, not just to me, but to Meng's integrity to make that comparison. People are dumping on a company that has been ethical and has been incredibly generous misdirecting their resentment about their bad experience in 2016 with a different corporation called Cakewalk Inc that was owned by Gibson and was dissolved in 2017. Gibson was responsible for Cakewalk's agreements. They didn't sell that responsibility to Bandlab. Cakewalk inc was not purchased by Bandlab, some of its assets were sold to Bandlab. I get that not everyone understands business and seeing the same brand name, the Cakewalk website, and software that is primarily just an updated version of Sonar, results in their confusion, but they're lashing out at the wrong company. You made a contract with Cakewalk Inc, a company owned by Gibson that ceased operations in 2017. Bandlab is not that company. Gibson still exists, so it would make more sense for you to lobby Gibson for a refund or attempt a class action suit against Gibson (although Gibson's 2018 bankruptcy may have limited or ended those obligations; I don't know the answer to that), but Bandlab has no legal or ethical responsibility to give you free product for life. If, by chance, Meng gives a discount to former Sonar registrants, that would simply be a kind gesture, not the result of any legal or moral obligation. I was a Cakewalk customer that used their top of the line versions of Sonar and updated to each new version. I even bought the short lived Project5. But I don't think that Bandlab owes me special pricing merely because they bought the intellectual property rights to the software and trademarks Cakewalk and Sonar. If they named the product something completely different, I'm guessing at least some of the people who currently feel entitled to free product for a lifetime from Bandlab might be less inclined to feel that way.

Thanks @Cyanide Lovesong. We have the ability to turn on/off DPI scaling at the app level and also at the individual plugin level so it's all backwards compatible. See below. Also, to the naysayers, we have decades of experience writing Windows software and worked directly with Microsoft engineers with some of this DPI stuff over the years. Rest assured we know what we're doing, probably more than most others in our industry at least for Windows! So far we haven't had any performance issues issues, but as you say dynamically baking bitmaps is a fallback that we discussed a long time ago if it was ever necessary to do.

Hopefully this won't descend into a free-for-all mess like some threads do! Please try to keep on topic and post respectfully. So, we've all seen the announcement by now that going forward the new Cakewalk products are switching to a paid model. Whether you agree or disagree with that isn't really the point of this thread (by all means, continue to duke it out in the Announcement Thread). This thread is in relation to seeing the mention on several Cakewalk-centric YouTube channels, and a few posts around here and social media saying that now that Cakewalk is a paid product, it should be treated as such, and not get a free pass for its "clunky" areas. Now, I'm going to state up front that I 100% agree with the "it should not be given any free passes now that it's becoming a paid product" statement, but I'll go further to say that even as a free product, I don't think anyone should have been looking at it as such. This was the formerly full flagship commercial product during the pre-Bandlab days, with countless bug fixes and extra features. No matter what it cost, it should be judged on its own merits. Nothing should be different now. But one thing has stuck with me from these sentiments: "Clunky." The notion that other DAWs are doing something different/better than what CbB (and presumably Sonar going forward) is doing. Some base qualifications here: I'm not starting this thread to blindly defend CbB, this is a genuine attempt at getting other perspectives. It's also not the opposite, I'm not starting this to invite CbB bashing either. It's also not here to crap on any of the YouTube channels either - they're good people with their own valid opinions on things. I'm particularly talking about other traditional recording style DAWs, so things like Ableton Live and Tracktion Waveform, etc. that use an entirely different paradigm is beyond the scope of what I'm talking about here. There's a reason most of us are using CbB here, rather than any of those other ways to record, so my comparisons would be things like Cubase, Studio One, REAPER, ProTools, etc. that share a similar workflow. This is NOT a discussion about features or OS ports. So while saying "there's no Mac version" or "where is the Sampler" etc. are fair questions, they're better suited for the Feedback Loop forum. I'm definitely not talking about missing effects or anything like that. So with that all said, for those of you familiar (and especially very fluent) with other DAWs, what are they doing that's making CbB look clunky in comparison? Is it part of the UX (I don't mean the design, I mean how it works - the User Experience) that's easier to use on a competing product? Creating tracks? Editing? Multiple open project work? What stuff do you do in your other DAW that feels like it's not as intuitive or takes longer in CbB? Why am I asking? Am I a paid Bandlab shill? No (although if someone wants to give me money.... 🤔) I'm just a user like the rest of you guys, who has been around quite a long while and uses Cakewalk stuff professionally in my day to day job. I'm seeing these comments and... honestly, with all the playing around with other DAWs I've done over the years, I can't see where a lot of the criticism is coming from (some, yes, but the amount of "this is better in other DAWs" comments I've seen over the last few days with absolutely nobody expanding on exactly what, is making me go "am I missing something here, or is this all just a lot of subjective opinions triggered by the payment model announcement?") Again, please take this as a genuine question in good faith, I'm keen to know what everyone thinks! A final disclaimer: as I said, I'm just a user like everyone else, and nothing I'm saying here is in any way connected to Bandlab or any decision making they do, but I'd like to think they'll have a good look through the thread here and take on board any good suggestions or comparisons. So, people, what (if anything) specifically is making CbB seem clunky in comparison to the other similar commercial DAWs? Let's hear it

(begin rant) I bought Softube's FET last September for a great sale price and really like it, especially since I got such a great "deal". Since then, they've been marketing their NEW Mark II FET compressor (which looks great, BTW) Then today, I just got an email from them titled "Important information regarding your product". The gist of the email is that these "supported legacy products" will no longer be updated after 3 years. WHY would I continue to use a plugin in new projects that is no longer going to be supported?? They do offer a "discount" for the new Mark II version which is still over 2x what I paid for my current version. So heads up! Don't buy these plugins below because they are no longer going to be supported... I remember almost picking up Bass Amp Room too which was recently on sale and I'm very glad I didn't. I don't know if I'm just particularly cranky this morning or what, but this seems very disingenuous and a shameless money grab to me. It also makes me appreciate the customer-centric devs like Melda who update your current version of the plugin without charging you again, makes sure they are backwards compatible when new versions come out so you old projects still work (and offer the old installers), AND continually add NEW plugins for FREE to bundles you own. This almost makes me want to start a Dev appreciation thread for those companies who really take care of their customers. To be fair, I've had no beef with Softube before this other than the price of their plugins. I'm going to email support after venting here to see what sort of response I get from them. I'll let you know. (rant over) sigh.

Off the top of my head .... 1. Proper sampler / sample based workflow 2. Chord track 3. Easier hardware integration for control surfaces etc 4. Negative offset 5. Bar zero 6. Spatial Audio Ready 7. Remote Control 8. Varispeed 9. Retrospective Midi Record 10. Scale constrain 11. MPE Supprt 12. Bounce/Renderin Place 13. Loudness Metering 14. Updated Browser 15. Scratch Pads

Thanks to this forum, I've picked up Abyss, Biotek 2, F'em, and Hyperion for about $100 total. Dealio...

MIDI routing beyond the basics is clunky and CbB is the only software I regularly use that has tabbed sections that does not allow me to recorder the tabs.

I on the other hand am starting to ignore those same people. I do a lot of impulse buying and don't even download demos. Of course that might change next week - the impulse buying that is.

There's a fair amount of research showing that playing an instrument does all kinds of good for the brain.

Pretty sure it will continue to work. Just no further support or updates. May work a “treat” for years to come.

I shall no doubt buy whatever comes next. Although, it does involve an act of faith: I understand the Sonar about to be launched is what I already have but with re-jigged better graphics, which is nice, but that's it for the time being. But my experience with the guys at the heart of this product tells me it's ok to make that leap of faith, so I will.

Melodyne is another example.

Frontier has been free for essentially forever.

Two of Vangelis's best:

No, thanks. Next is the web version. It cannot work with VST and VSTi This is incorrect Cakewalk Next is a native Windows/Mac program that supports VST2/3 format plug-ins. BandLab Technologies has a group who make a web-based DAW called BandLab. This is not a Cakewalk product.

Or, maybe just a good date? 🤔 😜

Goodbye CbB. You've been my best friend for a long time, but we're going to have to break up.

More info (the rest of) from Tracktion support: Wavesequencer (Tracktion Support) Jun 5, 2023, 5:39 PM PDT Hi Steven, Hyperion is MPE capable, but it was a feature added as a user request late after Hyperion was made public, so the factory patches don't have MPE enabled by default and it would be very difficult to update every patch to have custom MPE assignements. If you click the MPE filter, you will see there is one MPE demo combi patch - 'Blade2047_MPE'. ~~~~ If you would like to use an MPE controller on existing patches (or your own patch designs), it's required to set the MPE mode to 'on' in each layer you want to respond to MPE bend/pressure. You can set the bend up/down ranges to match your controller. Other than pitch bend, if the patch is not already mapped to use the pressure and Y-axis output pins, you would need to map those to whatever parameter you would like them to affect - that's the flexibility of the modular system - you can control any target pin on the voice nodes polyphonically, but since it's a modular synth - there is no pre-assignment in patches as every patch is different. Most MPE controllers will use CC74 for the y-axis parameter, but you can also selected a different CC controller number if necessary, and there are a few custom bend release modes that you could try out (affecting what happens in terms of the pitch bend when the note is released but still decaying the sound). Follow up email from Tracktion: Wavesequencer (Tracktion Support) Jun 5, 2023, 11:56 PM PDT FYI - I did a quick test with Ableton 11 parameter automation, and to my surprise it sends per note pressure as main channel Poly-aftertouch messages rather than channel pressure on each channel associated with each note (maybe that is configurable somewhere), which is the more usual MPE implementation. That seems a bit odd to me because Poly aftertouch MIDI messages functionality has been around forever (and was possibly supported by Ableton for a long time already), and I would expect MPE mode to use per-channel/note mono-pressure messages and not Poly aftertouch. Either way, Hyperion will receive both types of data, but the example patch is making use of the channel pressure messages. I've previously tested with Bitwig DAW and when doing MPE pressure automation (either with a touch screen or automation curves) it used per-channel channel pressure messages for each note. Hardware controllers appear to also make the distinction between Poly AT and MPE mode for polyphonic pressure output - e.g. the ASM Hydrasynth (which I have) sends (mono) channel pressure messages on a channel per note in MPE mode as far as I remember. Actually I'm considering to combine the poly aftertouch and channel pressure output pins in a future release of Hyperion, since it's rare that you would want to or expect to have both types of messages being sent to a synth at the same time. Best regards, Paul. Thanks. Wavesequencer Support Team www.tracktion.com

Got a few of them.... made me chuckle while I was waiting...

SpectraLayers Pro is probably best described as an alternative to RX Standard/Advanced; some features are slightly different but overall are comparable. @Grem had asked about that a while back, and the unmix stems/components feature is most used by me. RX Standard has that feature to the stems level and I posted about that in Grem's thread. I have a friend who has a lot of old 4-track work, so most of my use has been to tear those apart for retracking/remixing, or to simply expedite creation of covers of commercial tracks. The repair features get used off and on, but that is more dependent on what I am doing at the time.

It's only because of other people sharing that they've bought the same stuff twice or grabbed the same freeibies twice without realizing they already had them that I came to realize that I'm not the only one that has done that. Plugin Boutique's and Plugin Alliance's shopping cart reminders that "you already own this product" have saved me from buying a bunch of plugins twice.

may I lock this now? ...sneaks back in ...one laughy face noted please let this thread die ---ok twice as happy shhhh...go to sleep third time is the charm nite nite until next time

Might be worth checking to see if you already own it. I did, so I didn't grab it to save serials for others 🙂

With the new vector-based UI, does this mean vertical zoom could show more tracks without scrolling? I've always envied how Logic, PT, Cubase, Studio One and all the other major DAWs could vertical zoom so much you could literally see 100+ tracks without scrolling. This would really help with people who do film scoring where they're working with templates of 200+ tracks or more.

The greatest book in the known universe has the words "Don't Panic" written in large friendly letters on the cover.

The main takeaway right now, as far as the community is concerned, is that this change just better substantiates our operational reality. The Cakewalk brand, though it is part of BLT, is 100% committed to desktop-domain software products with a roadmap minimally entangled with other non-Cakewalk product roadmaps.

Becan, the answer is *ALWAYS* becan.

What would the world be without panic. We all need some

They could also add the clause: This offer is limited to former LifeTime license holders on the condition that they shut the **** up and stop whining!''

So, do you have a subscription for your popcorn and does it scale properly?

It already is :-P