MusicMan

I wouldn't at all be surprised if it's free with purchase over x amount at the Black Friday sales later this year at Best Service. That's how I got it. I really quite enjoy it, but free is better! 🙂

Thanks Burtles Sounds like they killed the vouchers now compared to what they were.. before there was no minimum on them and they stacked, so that's handy to know. That being the case, you could probably just add another plugin to the order for $49 at worst, but then you get something different in addition. Still not quite as good as it could've been though. Thanks for confirming Studer! I haven't installed Luna yet, but have been planning on giving it a run in the next week or so. Great idea with the 2 for $76. That might even be an option down the track to stack with a thank you and buy the API Preamp at the same time in an upcoming sale. I know leading up to BF last year they had a month or two of sales in a row with similar offers.

If you're quick you can use the code ACAD5024 and get the upgrade for $26

Don't you normally get a $25 thank you for every plugin you purchase as long as you buy them a day apart or so? I have always in the past, but I haven't bought a UA plugin in ages. With the APIs the only ones missing is the preamp (and extension) and API Summing. From what UA states, buy them and bam, you got the API extensions. https://uadforum.com/community/index.php?threads/its-here-luna-for-windows-q-a-with-connor-from-ua.71429/post-532018 Radek Stanisz said: UniversalAudio It's possible it's only the new tape that includes the extension, but here Connor from UA answers it for ATR-102: https://uadforum.com/community/index.php?threads/its-here-luna-for-windows-q-a-with-connor-from-ua.71429/post-527615 UA_User said: Connor from UA The A800 states this on the page where you buy it. No mention of needing to buy Luna Pro. This might just be how they worded it though, but it sounds like it should be include. Use the Studer A800 LUNA Extension to easily add warmth to your entire mix on a per channel basis

If they add Neve Summing, or other plugins that could be a winner. Still a lot of us have most of them from their Signature bundle and I wonder if it works about better to just buy the missing ones. Luna Pro includes: Ampex ATR-102 Master Tape Machine & LUNA Extension API 2500 Bus Compressor & LUNA Extension API Preamp API Summing LUNA Extension API Vision Channel Strip & LUNA Extension Century Tube Channel Strip Galaxy Tape Echo Oxide Tape Recorder Polymax Pultec Passive EQ Collection Pure Plate Reverb Studer A800 Tape Recorder & LUNA Extension Teletronix LA-2A Leveler Collection The only ones needed are: Ampex ATR-102 Master Tape Machine & LUNA Extension API Preamp API Summing LUNA Extension The extension part is a bit unclear, but my understanding is that both the tapes include the extensions. Once you have all the components of the APIs you have the extension. It would be nice to confirm that. If that was the case, then if you could buy them in the following order and you can still combine the vouchers, you should be able to get Pro equivalent for $137 or less if the API Summing is discounted further (and my math is correct 🤣) Week 1 Buy ATR-102 for $39 ($89 minus weekly $50 and get $25 thank you back) Buy API Preamp for $24 ($49 Sale Price - $25 Thankyou and get $25 thank you back) Week 2 Buy API Summing LUNA Extension for $74 ($149 - $50 weekly voucher minus $25 thankyou) You would also get a $25 thank you voucher back, but from a Luna perspective, we would have Pro at this stage.

Yeah that would be a bit better at least. That's part of my reluctance to buy Luna Pro. I think some of those plugs it would take me up to 3 or 4 licenses.. their model seems to be just keep buying the same plugin over and over and never be able to sell and get any costs back 🤣

Yes and no for me Zo.. If you do a 12dB boost on the high shelf on one EQ and a 1dB boost on the high shelf on another, but matching phase, it will sound dramatically different to both having a 12dB boost with different phase. I do think checking for the phase is good though. I have had some EQs where the curves match and they should sound the same by curve alone, but they don't. Both good checks, but I'd say curves most important, phase lesser but still good to check.

I found that too and Ruletec has always been up there in my favourites for Pultecs.

Definitely agreed. If I was just starting to buy plugins now, I'd be all over it. But I have a stack of tape emulations, some I really love so there's no real need, or nothing that can't be achieved without it. I'm more looking opportunistically because I just think it might be OK to grab. So waiting is really no issue. I'm still not sure if be totally happy with UA if I paid $10K or more before their new pricing and now everyone else only paid under $200. I wouldn't have paid their excessive prices though and wouldn't have bought one of their interfaces, or done subscription, but once they went native and put some of their bundles on sale, they were a bit of a no-brainer.

The thing I've learnt with UA, is it pretty much never pays to buy early.. I have been toying with the idea of Luna Pro, but then I own most of the plugins in there apart from the API pres and a couple of others. A little on the fence as to what would work out cheaper, buying individually with a $25 thank you each time shaving off the price of successive purchases, or grab the bundle. But knowing UA, there will be a Luna Signature Platinum bundle or something they will release that will include even more and be cheaper again 🤣 I am intrigued about giving the ATR-102 a demo, but I think I'll sit back and wait to see how Black Friday pans out for either Luna, or the tape.

Me neither, I'm very much the rookie when it comes to Plugin Doctor.. 🤣 But I love using it to see what sort of curves etc some of my favourite, or raved about EQs use. It's quite an eye opener and not a bad learning tool. Sometimes I'm hearing something I think is happening and then it's useful to check if the plugin does work that way too. Thanks for you post too, lots of great comparisons and opening up Pulse-Tec V2 let me know there was an update, so that I just installed that as well

I always like seeing stuff like this and find Plugin Doctor quite an interesting tool. Pulse-Tec Nomad Factory V2 gets very close to the curves. It seems they use a HP filter on their V2 plug regardless of it not being enabled on the plugin for the HLF-3 section. Both UA and Pulse-Tec V1 use a sharp LP filter at around 20KHz which I imagine might be for aliasing, whereas V2 of Pulse-Tec doesn't. There is quite a bit of difference between all three when it comes to Harmonic Analysis though.

It's free anyway though isn't it? Can just get it from the Stagecraft website.

This was my assumption too. Could either just use a new email / account, or see if there's something cheap to add. I didn't spend time looking as I'm not sure I really intend on grabbing it.

Not saying that the Steinberg apps are perfect and I do think they should consolidate and improve, but they actually do most of that. I open up the Steimberg Download Assistant, I click on My Product Downloads and it shows me exactly what I own. If there are any products that need updating, there's an updates section at the top of the Download Assistant. It won't show that for me at the moment, as I'm completely updated. If I click Cubase Pro 12 in the "My Product Downloads" section, it shows all the items that are available and what I've installed and lists them as "Install" or "Install again" if they've already been installed and a big green bar with a tick in it to show it's installed. I do think part of this is really still just migrating from their old eLicenser system and they're probably working towards a more consolidated experience.