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1 hour ago, Rain said:

what fun it was to launch Outlook Express in the morning on a dial up connection and to wait for it to load all the posts.

Yep... I remember that!! Unbelievable the people we had on that newsgroup.

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7 hours ago, Rain said:

Oh what fun it was to launch Outlook Express in the morning on a dial up connection and to wait for it to load all the posts.

Wow. You just triggered a lot of memories there ...

I seem to recall a program, or maybe it was a function of Outlook Express, that would scan all the newsgroups you instructed it to and download any "attachments". You know, for, uh, pictures of wildlife, sunsets, guitars, etc. etc., MP3's, programs.

Checksums were helpful for missing chunks of large files that were split and had some parts missing. It was no easy task getting a 3Mb Jpeg over dialup back in the day. There was nothing worse than getting a partial picture of a guitar with just the headstock and everything below just colored bands of noise from missing data. 😁

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Brings me back to one of my very first gigs writing music for short films. Back in the Cakewalk Pro Audio days.

They'd given me an idea of what they wanted over the phone, so I started working immediately. When I received the VHS, I was super glad to find out that a lot of what I'd written seemed to align with the images - although I had no way to really sync anything. But I remember a high note on the guitar gently fading in as a locomotive appeared on screen and thinking - wow, it's like a train whistle, it totally fits! 

There was one piece which I wasn't really happy with or proud of - something I'd put together in Acid to match footage of an assembly line, using mostly chunks of loops and then adding a few notes of a recurring theme on top so that it would connect to the rest of the music I had written. I thought it wasn't really good but it worked and it didn't really draw attention to itself.

The deadline was Friday, and I had to factor in HOURS to upload the mixes to a storage platform on dial up. By 6 pm Thursday I was done uploading. I had been up for over 24 hours to finish in time. At 8 pm I got a call - of course, they like that crappy bit the most and were asking if I could re-do the rest just like it. And have it uploaded by noon.  So I spent the night in Acid, putting together some of the most uninspired "music" I have ever written, and managed to meet the deadline. 

Every time I hear or read or pronounce dial up, that's the first thing that comes to mind. 

 

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On 1/4/2024 at 6:02 PM, John Templeton said:

Bapu still has the largest post count

A good example that things are not always as they might seem - most of those are the same actual posts. Bapu has enough dirt on someone to have had his old post count ported over. Not that he cares about such things.

Obviously.

😀

 

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The king of post count is actually @cclarry. Too bad his Deals posts on the old forum never were added to his total. They do here and thus he actually he has more posts that anyone in this forum iteration.

I had exactly 85k in posts (as bapu) in the old forum (all unfunny) when it closed. That means I have only posted 9.7k posts here (all childish drivel). As of today,  @cclarry has 35.2K posts. He had to have had at least triple that on the old forum. And 99,9% of all his posts have had some value to someone.

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18 hours ago, John Templeton said:

What I remember most about the song forum was NagBap. Bapu was always chasing people to send along their stems so he could get his work done. IS he still at it?

I'm curious to see what the next Sonar roll out will look like. I bought every proprietary plugin they sold back in the old days and I've not been able to find really great replacements for some of them. I have all the old pre Bandlab software archived, including the plugins. I'll be curious to see if the rewrite kills backward compatibility with them. I do miss some of the Cakewalk synths because they were easy to use and had great sound.

In a previous post I described the product as doomed and that was a poor choice of words. I think cursed would have been better. It just seemed like whenever things were really coming together, money and management would derail it. Roland, Gibson, Bandlab. I can't think of any other platform that's changed hands as often.

On the positive side, these issues pushed me in another direction. I moved away from recording and got into hardware, building guitar amps, working with studios and eventually building tube hi-fi equipment. So it wasn't all bad. I bought a bunch of DAWs. I found most didn't work for me as well as Sonar Platinum but did get comfortable with Reaper. finding it to be very capable and low cost.

Here's a couple examples of my new gig.

 

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Hi John

I was around on the old forum - same name!

Good to see you back - but can I ask you stop posting Gear Porn Pictures - i can hardly control myself😁

Nigel

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Zo said:

John , will change mind after reading one or two thread were i messes the whole thing up in a never studied by entropologist langage !!

*Running this through Google Translate, please wait...*

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1 minute ago, Steve Patrick said:

I miss you guys too.  But I am a lazy sumbitch as you know.  And fairly self-centered.  And distracted.  What were we talking about?

 

Becan? 🤔

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On 1/4/2024 at 6:02 PM, John Templeton said:

Well, some things never change.....

To give credit where it's due, some of the good stuff about Cakewalk hasn't changed either....this very afternoon two of the bakers dug me out of a hole within minutes of me pressing the help button.  

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It's true. There's a bunch of really good people working behind the scenes and I assume many of them go way back. I feel sorry for them. These ownership/management changes over the years have kept Sonar from becoming a go-to product. They practically invented this stuff and when they became a freebie I think a lot of people figured they'd never use the product as the heart of their recording studios. Those of us that used the product know just how good it was.

This has happened in many industries. Remember Blackberry? First out of the gate, technically superior and now gone from the smartphone market. Bad management.

I'm very interested in seeing how the new Sonar rolls out. How much will it cost, what features will it have and who will actually own it.

I think the launch name should be... wait for it...  Sonar-Phoenix

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3 hours ago, Steve Patrick said:

I miss you guys too.  But I am a lazy sumbitch as you know.  And fairly self-centered.  And distracted.  What were we talking about?

 

Your lovely  Hat  ;)

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42 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

I have to reach for a tissue as all this niceness is getting me all emotional🤧

Puppets don t cry ...unlesss...... omg 😮 

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This thread is kinda reminding me of how I kinda feel things are changing.  Seems things are way slower around here.  Have most people just moved on?, like to other platforms, not just DAWs, but to Discord, Facebook Sonar pages or other places?

I do owe a huge dept of gratitude to all the Old-timers here.  Even before I joined the Forum (i think 2007)  I was sneaking around it getting many answers. I have never been good at knowing answers or giving answers,  but when I had an issue I could always get great answers here.  As a self-employed musician I always worried about being my own IT guy,  but between Sweetwater and this forum I had the best tech department anyone could ask for.  I mean I KNOW when and how to use Bapu's Am...or a G7(+9) chord...or how to modulate keys...but I was very sketchy and uninterested in things like IP addresses and such.

So I hope the new Sonar is inspiring and this forum stays vibrant.   It certainly has served me well in the past.

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