Byron Dickens Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 8 hours ago, InstrEd said: Are you sure The problem with this argument is that we all shouldn't be connected at all on-line then. We went on a road-trip out West in May and the amount of data Google collected from my phone was insane. But my wife had her phone not to share location etc etc etc...... and she kept complaining that she can't find the information. I guess it is the price we pay in a connected society. Not saying I like it and I'm not on Facebook or the like so I pick the poison I can live with I have said many times before, okay for Google to track but not MS mentality is just wacky The problem with your argument is that it's a strawman. Not to impugn your wife or her intelligence, but her problem is not the phone being locked down for privacy, but not applying basic research skills. I know it sounds remarkable, but somehow people managed to find their way around, get something to eat and even buy stuff before Big Tech wanted to spy on us all the time. There is nothing, nothing, inherent about the internet that requires all of Big Tech's data mining for it's functionality. In fact, it wasn't even a thing until they figured out how to make billions of of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 88 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 ChatGTP is just a great thesaurus... I love AI, but that is all it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 18 hours ago, InstrEd said: Are you sure The problem with this argument is that we all shouldn't be connected at all on-line then. We went on a road-trip out West in May and the amount of data Google collected from my phone was insane. But my wife had her phone not to share location etc etc etc...... and she kept complaining that she can't find the information. I guess it is the price we pay in a connected society. Not saying I like it and I'm not on Facebook or the like so I pick the poison I can live with I have said many times before, okay for Google to track but not MS mentality is just wacky If your wife has that concern, then she shouldn't use her phone at all, since your carrier pretty much always can estimate your location all the time using signal triangulation. And that is also used by your phone GPS as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 12 hours ago, Byron Dickens said: If you think this is only about companies trying to sell you mouthwash or barbecue grills then you're just naive. No. I'm blasé. For the record I just helped my employer get ISO 27001 certified, I am fully up to date on cyber security I just don't care - as an individual it doesn't affect me. Have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mark Morgon-Shaw said: No. I'm blasé. For the record I just helped my employer get ISO 27001 certified, I am fully up to date on cyber security I just don't care - as an individual it doesn't affect me. Have at it. So, how about that email address, banking information and passwords? Man, your naivete is breathtaking.. Edited July 7, 2023 by Byron Dickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said: If your wife has that concern, then she shouldn't use her phone at all, since your carrier pretty much always can estimate your location all the time using signal triangulation. And that is also used by your phone GPS as well. I keep trying to tell her that Funny thing is she uses Facebook because she came from a large extended family that has relatives all across the Country. I keep telling her that Facebook is the worst about sucking information about you 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoo Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, InstrEd said: I keep trying to tell her that Funny thing is she uses Facebook because she came from a large extended family that has relatives all across the Country. I keep telling her that Facebook is the worst about sucking information about you 😆 Apart from all the other Meta apps... Have you seen what Threads wants to hoover up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Xoo said: Apart from all the other Meta apps... Have you seen what Threads wants to hoover up? I'm staying away from Twitter, Facebook and the like. I have been tempted to join Facebook a few times for music related information but so far I have remained strong and resisted the Dark Side 😆 I do admit my Wife has found information on the Parent Page Group where my daughters go to college. So Facebook has its merits. I just don't feel like policing my computer to lock it down from all the hooks that Facebook gets into the computer system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 There are ways to mitigate some of the damage: Facebook Containers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Byron Dickens said: So, how about that email address, banking information and passwords? Man, your naivete is breathtaking.. They're on the dark web in various data breaches, just name your price. It's not naivete I am fully knowledgable I just don't subscribe to fear mongering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Morgon-Shaw said: I just don't subscribe to fear mongering. So you're one of those climate change denying anti-vaxxers then?😀 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, paulo said: So you're one of those climate change denying anti-vaxxers then?😀 No I'm one of those atheist , non TV watching rationalists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Mark Morgon-Shaw said: They're on the dark web in various data breaches, just name your price. That's like saying you're not going to lock your doors anymore because you already been burglarized once. 4 hours ago, Mark Morgon-Shaw said: It's not naivete I am fully knowledgable I just don't subscribe to fear mongering. Do you lock the doors to your house when you leave? Do you lock your car will you park it somewhere? Why? Are you living in fear or something? Taking reasonable precautions is hardly "fear-mongering." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, Byron Dickens said: That's like saying you're not going to lock your doors anymore because you already been burglarized once. Do you lock the doors to your house when you leave? Do you lock your car will you park it somewhere? Why? Are you living in fear or something? Taking reasonable precautions is hardly "fear-mongering." Whoa! You guys have DOORS???!!!!! 😮 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 hours ago, craigb said: Whoa! You guys have DOORS???!!!!! 😮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bapu said: Good job Ed! I literally told someone that was near me when I posted that "Let's see how long before someone posts [I had said a YouTube video] of the Doors below that!" Close enough! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Byron Dickens said: Do you lock the doors to your house when you leave? Do you lock your car will you park it somewhere? Why? Are you living in fear or something? No they both lock themselves automatically. If it's gets stoen it's not my car anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) Anyone knows who played Bass for the doors? Edited July 8, 2023 by Grem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Grem said: Anyone knows who played Bass for the doors? Yep! 😁 Hint: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhonoBrainer Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I like how the chatbot AI accounts have contrived to derail this thread, ensuring no further inquiry into their future domination of lyric creation. Maybe they will at last find something that rhymes with purple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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