InstrEd Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: I'm getting too stupid to even mess with Linux. I just don't want to admit that 🤣 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 hours ago, hockeyjx said: I use Debian and Ubuntu(and Mint a few years back), but I realize it is a such a small subset of people who use Linux and also do music production that it would be cost prohibitive to target the market, that's all. I get you, but i think they are thinking of targeting the more specialized market of audio for film. Linux has a much bigger footprint in the film world. I could be wrong, but that might be the play 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Row Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Perhaps Winblows, but I'm damn sure Linsux. Stay seated, I'll see myself out. 👉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 15 hours ago, dubdisciple said: I get you, but i think they are thinking of targeting the more specialized market of audio for film. Linux has a much bigger footprint in the film world. I could be wrong, but that might be the play If you're talking "rendering farms", yes. If you're talking about folks who compose/record music for Films, they're all using Windows or OSX. Most are Cubase users. Out of all Windows users, DAW users are a *tiny* micro-fleck size group. Linux DAW users are a "sub-atomic" fleck size group. Maybe Presonus needs a tax write-off... (shoulder shrug emoji) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 21 hours ago, Bapu said: Why would anyone want to use Bitwig let alone Linux? I'll get me coat. 😋 Got to stir the pot!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Grem said: Got to stir the pot!!! Copper, Iron Clad, Aluminum or Stainless Steel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, InstrEd said: Copper, Iron Clad, Aluminum or Stainless Steel They all work the same for this recipe! Just keep the water boiling!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettelus Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 On a serious note, there is no denying that there is a Linux fan base (regardless the size), so a larger developer stepping up to the plate to support them is impressive. As someone who only has one vehicle that doesn't fall into the antique/historic class, the last thing I am going to do is sling mud at the people who still make those parts. There is zero requirement to "support" this, but it is definitely appreciated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Does anyone have Focusrite drivers working in Debian Linux? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 8:22 AM, Jim Roseberry said: A Linux DAW is an incomplete solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Other than getting-over on "the man" (Microsoft or Apple), what's a significant benefit? The only benefit for a Linux is user. is.......... (crickets chirping) Let's see........a larger doorstop collection of once used audio interfaces that exceeds Apple Feeling superior for taking a longer approach using something inferior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 4:27 PM, antler said: As I understand, MS did this to comply with the law; I don't think you'll find a single company who wouldn't. Here's a clip from the Ubuntu website. Difference here is you can turn that off permanently in Linux. On Windows, you can maybe turn it off then it turns itself back on next time you update the system, meaning you have to constantly rely on third party software like "ShutUp10" to disable that telemetry. On 10/4/2023 at 12:22 PM, Jim Roseberry said: Other than getting-over on "the man" (Microsoft or Apple), what's a significant benefit? Market competition. Having only two companies determining what the vast majority of people can and cannot do with their operating systems is no different than a monopoly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Yep....Linux....lost.... in the consumer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 6:03 PM, tansetter said: there's probably more. anyone who disagrees with this post, don't get political in the deals forum. Here's another great example of a pre-emptive strike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 10/4/2023 at 8:22 AM, Jim Roseberry said: A Linux DAW is an incomplete solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Other than getting-over on "the man" (Microsoft or Apple), what's a significant benefit? https://www.musicradar.com/news/linux-studio?utm_term=0DF43CE8-F433-42DB-AB57-C96579DCD55F&lrh=f20c1a200e7e2d0f94a861f1122ae9feed0d2a20ad468be1fc80eb9f5b4c7001&utm_campaign=0205D92E-E67C-43E4-B0CF-F6FEA0D1AF4F&utm_medium=email&utm_content=5109EC82-970D-4F3D-A5CF-D8C263C3C659&utm_source=SmartBrief The typical lame ***** argument. It is a rocket science to most people otherwise it wouldn't be the microcosm that it is. When it comes to anything an experienced user can't remember the beginner stage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) Is this the first DAW made available for Linux? Edited January 5 by jesse g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidos Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 14 minutes ago, jesse g said: Is this the first DAW made available for Linux? Bitwig supports Linux. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asprog Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Waveform supports Linux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 22 minutes ago, jesse g said: Is this the first DAW made available for Linux? Nope. 6 minutes ago, Solidos said: Bitwig supports Linux. Also, Ardour/Harrison Mixbus, Reaper, and Waveform. There are a number of open source DAWs in addition (LMMS, Rosegarden). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 i spent about a year with ubuntu around version 11(?) about 11(?) years ago, the basics (office, internet) are great but everything else (daw, games) missed the commercial support (for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, kitekrazy said: The typical lame ***** argument. It is a rocket science to most people otherwise it wouldn't be the microcosm that it is. When it comes to anything an experienced user can't remember the beginner stage. Nothing lame about it. What problem/s does a Linux DAW solve? Latency? Compatibility? Performance? The short answer is none of the above. What is "Lame ***" is Linux as a DAW platform. 20+ years behind Mac and PC Far fewer developers Miniscule user base (Mac/PC DAW user base in tiny compared to general-purpose users. Linux DAW users are a tiny percentage compared to Mac/PC). Low demand (vs Mac/PC) 101 different OS variants Near zero one-on-one support for less tech-savvy users What does a miniscule user-base, few developers, and low demand result in? You guessed it, no significant profit. The reality of the situation is that (especially in today's economy), companies can't afford thousands of man-hours (development)... for something that's not going to pay for itself. If your life-savings was invested in a DAW software company, would you honestly think it a wise investment to develop a Linux DAW? Lets say you've got 10 thousand man-hours in development cost (at $50/man-hour). That's half a million dollars. I don't know about you, but I'd want that $500,000 to generate a decent return on investment. Mac/PC is going to have a much better ROI... because the user-base is much larger (far more potential customers). Say Company X compiled the ultimate Linux DAW. Legitimate support across the many different variants of Linux would be a nightmare (money and time). Why do you think many laptop developers choose to hide BIOS parameters from end-users? It's not because it's beneficial from a performance standpoint, it's to save them from potential tech-support nightmare. If you want to run a Linux DAW "just because you can"... more power to you. For someone who has everything they want/need in a current Mac/PC DAW, where's the impetus to make a (less than lateral) move? Emotional/philosophical reasons aren't going to motivate folks to take a significant step backward. Remember when Mac/PC DAWs were starting to come about? Oh, this new DAW software is going to be the "ProTools killer". Just because someone created an alternative (even if it's completely equal in features/function), that's not enough of a reason to get many folks to switch. Linux as legitimate DAW platform (to completely rival Mac/PC) faces a nearly vertical slope. Edited January 5 by Jim Roseberry 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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