John Vere Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I installed it on my main DAW a started a new project to run it through some simple tasks using my typical workflow for creating a song. Right away I ran into a few issues. ( Bugs/Pilot error? ) My list gets longer every minute! But I'm not sure where I should post them? The feedback Loop? And boy do they ever need to get our custom themes happening! I'm stuck with Mercury as it's the only one with a white PVR. And now everything is ssssoooo tiny I am defiantly in squint mode! Took me a little while to spot the arranger inspector icon even though I knew it must still me there! What's with this trend in designing icons that are so obscure you need a cheat sheet on your desk to decipher? like someone else said< "you mean we have to pay to be beta testers?? " 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Sasor Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 54 minutes ago, John Vere said: I installed it on my main DAW a started a new project to run it through some simple tasks using my typical workflow for creating a song. Right away I ran into a few issues. ( Bugs/Pilot error? ) My list gets longer every minute! But I'm not sure where I should post them? The feedback Loop? And boy do they ever need to get our custom themes happening! I'm stuck with Mercury as it's the only one with a white PVR. And now everything is ssssoooo tiny I am defiantly in squint mode! Took me a little while to spot the arranger inspector icon even though I knew it must still me there! What's with this trend in designing icons that are so obscure you need a cheat sheet on your desk to decipher? like someone else said< "you mean we have to pay to be beta testers?? " We'll have some more formalized places to discuss Sonar coming, but for now you can continue to post about it here. Also note there is "Report a Problem" link in the Help menu. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) @John Vere 27" monitor here. Scaling at 100% Resolution 1920x1080. Text is the same size as SPlat and CbB. I've got some little "railroad tracks" above the docked Console view, that upon mouse over, are Arranger, Video, Bus Pane, etc. Those are tiny. Also using Mercury (no Carbon yet, but my fingers are crossed). The icons have changed a bit; annoying. Updated your iPhone lately?... Lets be honest, the UI is basically back to the future Sonar 8.5. It is FLAT.; that's my biggest disappointment, but not a deal breaker. As to paying to be a Beta tester, no one is being forced to pay. Want to "work" in Sonar, join BandLab. Want to just have a look and a quick "test drive"; no charge. Seems fair to me. t Edited March 6 by DeeringAmps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 52 minutes ago, DeeringAmps said: I've got some little "railroad tracks" above the docked Console view, that upon mouse over, are Arranger, Video, Bus Pane, etc. Those are tiny. It was always possible to drag those panes open in CbB but there were no lines between the Video, Arranger and Tempo tracks to indicate where the panes were divided, and no tool tips to show which was which. The pane dividers were made narrower because they were starting to take up a lot of real estate. Edited March 6 by David Baay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 (edited) Please don’t throw rocks at me but my list of “bugs “ were 100% pilots error. Rule #1. Don’t expect things to work the way you THINK they should work! Learn how they are designed to work. But it’s good to know about the built in reporting system. I imagine I’ll never have to use it. One of my “bugs” was the arranger track seemed totally messed up. Good old Ripple Edit was still on. I will go on record as saying the new graphics actually suck. I find myself having trouble locating items that are right were they always were but are unfamiliar now. Like the track record button is indistinguishable from the solo button and so far I’ve made that mistake a dozen time already. Is this all better on a new monitor? Mines a 24”. So nothing to see here folks, keep moving. Thank you. Edited March 6 by John Vere 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gustabo Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 22 minutes ago, John Vere said: Please don’t throw rocks at me but my list of “bugs “ were 100% pilots error. Usually are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWillyDS12 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 hours ago, John Vere said: And boy do they ever need to get our custom themes happening! I am defiantly in squint mode! I second that Motion... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 35 minutes ago, John Vere said: Please don’t throw rocks at me but my list of “bugs “ were 100% pilots error. I knew you'd come around so I let it go without comment. ;^) 44 minutes ago, John Vere said: Like the track record button is indistinguishable from the solo button I have issues with contrast/legibility of some things, but that is not one of them. That said, I wouldn't mind having the red dot on the arming buttons back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Pref>>Colors affect TV clips and only a few other tidbits. I changed them all green to see what they were.... then found there's no default color set to revert back too. Could import one from CbB maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 12 hours ago, John Vere said: And boy do they ever need to get our custom themes happening! I have to agree there. I spent a long time making my theme in CbB just how I like it. I would hate to have to give it up - which, it looks like, I will have to.. (The Bakers did say that the new Sonar would not support theming). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott C. Stahl Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I'm liking the new look TBH. (Dark theme) The lettering looks crisper to me. It's running stable on even bigger VI heavy Projects. I'd be sad if it was Subscrip only because I just won't go that route. Otherwise, I'd love to take it for a proper spin and see what it can do on export and saving. I would miss the custom theme I worked to put together, but the dark theme is actually better on the PRV for me. Given a reasonable price, I'd probably go for the yearly upgrades just like the old days, but I just HATE the "Clock ticking in the background" feeling Subs gives. Aint gonna happen here. I have CC+ Sub w/EastWest but this will be my last year for that very reason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Row Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) But it's not a subscription, it's a membership, where have you heard that before? 😁 🤣 😂 😇 Edited March 7 by Heath Row Question mark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSistine Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Mere chance that suspicion and subscription sound similar? 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 (edited) I took the bait and gave them my credit card numbers. It’s just the way it is I don’t think about it. I’m on a monthly pension so paying monthly works for me. That’s how most of my bills are paid. They are all on automatic payment so when I go crazy my kids won’t inherit a bunch of unpaid bills. They can cancel Sonar then. What I actually hated was all the phoney Bandlab culture of promotion bs that was offered after I joined the club. If you follow the coffee house you would have read more about how people are having their music stolen via some of Bandlabs associated businesses. I think Lander was one of them. I see that’s still imbedded in Sonar. Our developers are awesome people who care but the owners are not on the same page and I hope they don’t screw this up. Edited March 7 by John Vere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Sasor Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, John Vere said: I see that’s still imbedded in Sonar. That's inherited from older versions you've installed previously. We don't add anything for Landr for new installs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Power Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) Well it looks pretty, but...there does not seem to be a lot of changes in functionality. Those of of working with film and TV scores need to still look elsewhere for a DAW that has top-level functionality for composing for video. Edited March 7 by Stephen Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Kelley Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I didn’t think any Cakewalk was promoted for the video editing market. Correct me if I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Power Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Terry Kelley said: I didn’t think any Cakewalk was promoted for the video editing market. Correct me if I’m wrong. Yes, I was wrong to use the term 'editing'. That's definitely not what I meant and I've edited (see what I did there) my post. I'm referring to using Cakewalk with videos that require soundtracks. I've done 3 with it already, and it's clunky, cumbersome and feels like it was an after-thought, compared to other DAWs that recognize the functionality needed by composers who want to work with video/film. Edited March 7 by Stephen Power 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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