cclarry Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) ProjectSAM’s iconic sounds are now available from the NKS shop with Orchestral Essentials and Orchestral Essentials 2 – both recently updated with improved browsing, advanced features, and a fresh new look. What’s more, as you’re an existing owner of The Free Orchestra, we’re offering you an exclusive 50%-off deal until April 6! https://www.native-instruments.com/en/catalog/nks-partners/ Edited March 20, 2023 by cclarry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Rosefelt Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) I think if you want to get the 50% off deal upgrading from the Free Orchestra, you have to do it on the ProjectSam site. https://projectsam.com/libraries Per the people on VI:Control, put in Orchestra Essentials 1 and 2 in your cart, and it will be $149. You have to be logged in. Edited March 20, 2023 by Reid Rosefelt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Also works on the Native Instruments website. You have to be logged in, then you get the upgrade price of 74,50 per library. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAKTRAK Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 HI All, Looking seriously at this as I am short of decent orchestral sounds. Anyone have any comment on their experiences with it. .........maybe, any reviews I can check out. ALSO...Opinion about me waiting for supposed 1/2 price KONTACT Sale perhaps later in year? ...... ..would KONTAKT already have packaged orchestral sounds worth waiting for ... & holding on to my funds till then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTP Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 46 minutes ago, BAKTRAK said: HI All, Looking seriously at this as I am short of decent orchestral sounds. Anyone have any comment on their experiences with it. .........maybe, any reviews I can check out. ALSO...Opinion about me waiting for supposed 1/2 price KONTACT Sale perhaps later in year? ...... ..would KONTAKT already have packaged orchestral sounds worth waiting for ... & holding on to my funds till then? These are high quality libraries, but they're focused on ensemble patches. Kontakt 7 factory library is apparently pretty good. I'm guessing it's probably enough for you. Depends on what you have already and what you need of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Verstraten Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Kontakt Library 2 has the orchestral patches with samples from Orchestral Tools and are decent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amicus717 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 13 hours ago, BAKTRAK said: HI All, Looking seriously at this as I am short of decent orchestral sounds. Anyone have any comment on their experiences with it. .........maybe, any reviews I can check out. ALSO...Opinion about me waiting for supposed 1/2 price KONTACT Sale perhaps later in year? ...... ..would KONTAKT already have packaged orchestral sounds worth waiting for ... & holding on to my funds till then? Guy Rowland has great video reviews of both: Orchestral Essentials 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl7d6jBTab8 Orchestral Essentials 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J-04SM2-no These reviews cover the basic instruments, and they link to follow-up reviews that talk about the Multi patches. These are older reviews so they show the original interface and patch setup. I have Orchestral Essentials 2, and it's great, although I have since bought the Symphobias (1,2 and 3), and so I don't really use it much anymore. But it's a great library with really lovely samples. It is ensemble patches, for the most part, and I think it's geared towards efficient composing using a basic and traditional kind of orchestral sound. As for Kontakt's factory library: it's adequate for very basic work, although I find the orchestral samples in both Factory Library 1 and 2 to be either quite dated (1), or nice sounding but very limited (2). To my ears, working with these patches would take a lot of careful tweaking or the results would be pretty midi-ish. I personally would consider the Orchestral Essentials libraries to be pretty good toolkits for basic orchestral work, and a genuine upgrade on what's in the Factory Libraries. However, it all really depends on what you want to do, and how you want to do it. I know folks who really love the Project SAM approach to samples; and I know folks who just don't feel at home in that kind of ensemble/multi patch headspace. So, YMMV, but I do think Rowland's reviews give a good overview. Hope that helps. Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I love Project SAM. And I'm afraid this will cost me money. They have a certain sound I much (!) more prefer than Spitfire. I hope Lumina gets a similar treatment, discount wise. I love their approach to layering and combining their patches. I'm not an orchestrator, so that helps A LOT. They do some very smart scripting and it is very commendable they provide these huge updates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I personally am not a fan of what ProjectSam does. Albion ONE sounds much better to me. Then there’s Orchestral Tools, quality wise quite a level higher at similar prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amicus717 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Fleer said: I personally am not a fan of what ProjectSam does. Albion ONE sounds much better to me. Then there’s Orchestral Tools, quality wise quite a level higher at similar prices. I've always taken a "right tool for the job" mentality with this stuff. Project SAM's design approach is kind of love-it-or-hate-it, and I would probably never use them for any of my big orchestral projects, since I like to have a lot more control over the mood and texture of my arrangements. But I think the basic sound of Project SAM's samples are a good as anyone's, and if you need to do fast arrangements they are hard to beat. Buddy of mine has a podcast and a couple months ago he asked me to create a few short bumpers for different recurring segments. I messed around with a bunch of ideas using my template's go-to libraries (including Albion ONE), but after a week or two I wasn't getting anywhere. Decided to fire up Symphobia Lumina and was able to crank out three of them in an hour using the multis. Edited March 22, 2023 by Amicus717 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAKTRAK Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Thankyou Everyone, I just returned recently and CbB Forum has not changed a bit. Still a wonderful 'family' of music makers only too happy & keen to lend a hand. You have given me much great info & direction to consider. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I recently bought a sous vide device. So it's either these libraries or: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, Nick Blanc said: I recently bought a sous vide device. So it's either these libraries or: New York Strip is an overrated piece of meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: New York Strip is an overrated piece of meat. As is the tri-tip. That's why I'm planning to cook it sous vide. I have a pretty large tomahawk in my freezer which I'm gonna use as a test case/practise run. That reminds me, I need to get a cleaver/bonesaw to cut of the bone otherwise it won't fit. I kinda want these libraries, but they are not on my wishlist, and I have a pretty good alternative. So I think I can curb my gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 40 minutes ago, Nick Blanc said: As is the tri-tip. That's why I'm planning to cook it sous vide. I have a pretty large tomahawk in my freezer which I'm gonna use as a test case/practise run. That reminds me, I need to get a cleaver/bonesaw to cut of the bone otherwise it won't fit. I kinda want these libraries, but they are not on my wishlist, and I have a pretty good alternative. So I think I can curb my gas. I guess that depends on what you have with your meal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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