Notes_Norton Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 It's actually as sappy, simplistic, and as unemotional as a lot of things that are popular. And like the early CGI images in movies, it'll get better. They want to put songwriters out of work now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Notes_Norton said: They want to put songwriters out of work now That'll be about 50 unemployed per Beyonce album then... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Notes_Norton said: It's actually as sappy, simplistic, and as unemotional as a lot of things that are popular. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Notes_Norton said: Is this the future of songwriting? AI? I just asked ChatGPT and it said yes. 😁 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 15 hours ago, craigb said: I just asked ChatGPT and it said yes. 😁 Best answer to date! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOK Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I mean....this was creepy. Betrayed by this town. I kinda felt like I was looking at a shooter's manifesto disguised as a music video. Which, I'm sure, will be next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 The lyrics were disturbing to me. I wasn't going to say anything about that but, everyone else must have felt the way I did. The video in the link in the op has flashes of some weird stuff that pops in and out real quick. @30secs, and again 2:31, and again after that towards the end. I have looked at others video reviews and none of them had those images in them, nor any mention of them. Just wondering who doctored the one in the link in the op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Grem said: The lyrics were disturbing to me. I wasn't going to say anything about that but, everyone else must have felt the way I did. The video in the link in the op has flashes of some weird stuff that pops in and out real quick. @30secs, and again 2:31, and again after that towards the end. I have looked at others video reviews and none of them had those images in them, nor any mention of them. Just wondering who doctored the one in the link in the op. Tyler Durden? 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, craigb said: Tyler Durden? I never saw "Fight Club" However, I know enough about it.... But I didn't get that. "Fight Club" is on my 'to watch list'. Has been on there for a very long time!! Wife will be at her moms this weekend. Looks like I will be getting something off that list soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Grem said: I never saw "Fight Club" However, I know enough about it.... But I didn't get that. "Fight Club" is on my 'to watch list'. Has been on there for a very long time!! Wife will be at her moms this weekend. Looks like I will be getting something off that list soon. Tyler worked in a theater and would splice in X-rated blips into the movies he would play. Edited December 8, 2023 by craigb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I do not need AI to write equally banal lyrics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 People who listen to Bieber and Rihanna probably won't be able to tell the difference. Heck, it might actually turn out to be an improvement. Me I'm glad I have endless supplies of "new" old music to discover, stuff that I was too dumb to "get" earlier in my life. This way I do not depend on contemporary releases. Right now, I'm still right in the early days of the Gabriel/Hackett era Genesis - in my world, Selling England By The Pound has yet to be released, so I have that and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway to look forward to. It's a very exciting time. Heck, maybe someday I'll "get" Yes. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 13 hours ago, craigb said: Tyler worked in a theater and would splice in X-rated blips into the movies he would play. spoilers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Rain said: Heck, maybe someday I'll "get" Yes. Miracles can happen :-) I've never been a big Yes fan (apart from 90125) but I do find it's good background music when working late at night - I don't feel the need to really listen to it in anger, but it's engaging enough to have playing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 11:32 AM, Notes_Norton said: And like the early CGI images in movies, it'll get better. I don't think so, at least not in the next 20 years. One of the biggest pitfalls of using AI for generating image sequences is that the algorithm doesn't understand the image sequence you're generating has to be consistent because it's a composition. Which is why you have those weird interpolation and shifting issues with the video. The amount of doctoring necessary to make AI generated stuff passable is so much more work and with multiple people with different skill sets. An example of that was that infamous Corridor Crew video with a clickbait title they changed later (most likely due to heavy criticism) which took them six months in total to create a 4 minute animation which looks like bad rotoscoping. In that time period, they had to train at least two new algos to give them the closest output to what they wanted and had to manually doctor and tweak all generated frames in post or run it through a separate AI which did just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Xoo said: Miracles can happen 🙂 I've never been a big Yes fan (apart from 90125) but I do find it's good background music when working late at night - I don't feel the need to really listen to it in anger, but it's engaging enough to have playing. That's one thing I never managed to do. I remember when I started working for that company in the 2000's and my colleagues were telling how cool things were there because they were allowed to listen to music (using headphones, obviously) while working. For me unless it's something like a string quartet or a piano concerto, and what I'm doing something is essentially just copying and pasting, I just can't. And most definitely, anything with vocals is right out. Heck, I can't even listen to music when I'm eating. A movie or a TV show's just fine, but music completely pulls me in, and my brain's trying to understand and figure out parts, and I get all kinds of visuals, especially if there's guitar, it's like I see the parts being played. The only exception would be when I'm doing chores around the house, but even then, I tend to drift off and forget what I was doing. Same in the gym. Edited December 9, 2023 by Rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said: I don't think so, at least not in the next 20 years. One of the biggest pitfalls of using AI for generating image sequences is that the algorithm doesn't understand the image sequence you're generating has to be consistent because it's a composition. Which is why you have those weird interpolation and shifting issues with the video. The amount of doctoring necessary to make AI generated stuff passable is so much more work and with multiple people with different skill sets. An example of that was that infamous Corridor Crew video with a clickbait title they changed later (most likely due to heavy criticism) which took them six months in total to create a 4 minute animation which looks like bad rotoscoping. In that time period, they had to train at least two new algos to give them the closest output to what they wanted and had to manually doctor and tweak all generated frames in post or run it through a separate AI which did just that. i expect that it will happen sooner rather than later, certainly sooner than 20 years, considering how quickly its happened so far, and don;t forget the research/development that's happening that's not public yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notes_Norton Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Rain said: For me unless it's something like a string quartet or a piano concerto, and what I'm doing something is essentially just copying and pasting, I just can't. And most definitely, anything with vocals is right out. Most of my work involves making music. Learning new songs, making the backing tracks for my duo, making aftermarket style/song software for Band-in-a-Box and gigging. If I'm doing something else that I have to concentrate on, background music is out. Even if it's boring and instrumental. Music just catches my brain and will distract me. If I don't like the music, I'll try to analyze what is wrong with it and how I would try to 'fix' it. I've missed important dialog in movies because something interesting was happening with the background music. Insights and incites by Notes ♫ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Notes_Norton said: If I'm doing something else that I have to concentrate on, background music is out. Even if it's boring and instrumental. Music just catches my brain and will distract me me too, i can't read with music on, i'm either focussing on the words OR the music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, Notes_Norton said: I've missed important dialog in movies because something interesting was happening with the background music. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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