whoisp Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 According to statist survey, 87 percent of the respondents use their headphones to listen to music. In fact in the workplace, 93% reported wearing headphones to listen to music. You haev more and more engineers now mixing on things like air pods and a quick test on monitors which i find interesting. Appears more and more musicians, engineers, and producers do it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Good question p! I “check” on cans, buds, and even the iPhone. But I still prefer “working” on the monitors. Old man, old ways die hard… t 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisp Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, DeeringAmps said: Good question p! I “check” on cans, buds, and even the iPhone. But I still prefer “working” on the monitors. Old man, old ways die hard… t It's funny, i now preferer doing everything on headphones and will only test on speaks, its how we train our ears i guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treesha Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I like to “feel” the music and find working on monitors energizing, but i do check on headphones near the end of the process. Monitors are just more enjoyable to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisp Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 13 hours ago, treesha said: I like to “feel” the music and find working on monitors energizing, but i do check on headphones near the end of the process. Monitors are just more enjoyable to me. That's how i feel with headphones, shut the whole world out and just feel the music and nothing else. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conteloto Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) I mix on headphones just because the reason you said I think almost the only place where people still listen to music on speakers is in cars. Edited October 17, 2023 by Conteloto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Since I make music to please myself and I like to listen on both loudspeakers as well as headphones, I try to make it sound good for both. People also listen to music on loudspeakers at clubs and when they watch TV and movies. For long haul multiple hour mixing sessions, I can go either way. I have multiple sets of monitors that I like and multiple sets of headphones that I like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOK Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 A crap mix can sound pretty darn good on my iPhone earbuds or my BeyerDynamic cans. That same mix can sound horrible on real speakers, in the real world. So... I mix with monitors until a mix sounds great on other speakers, in the real world. Any mix that passes that test also sounds great on decent headphones. That's where I land. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoisp Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 4 hours ago, HOOK said: A crap mix can sound pretty darn good on my iPhone earbuds or my BeyerDynamic cans. That same mix can sound horrible on real speakers, in the real world. So... I mix with monitors until a mix sounds great on other speakers, in the real world. Any mix that passes that test also sounds great on decent headphones. That's where I land. Yes i test on monitors with & without sub and average headphones but trained my ears to mix on the my cans now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Mix on earbuds if you are good enough! Most of us benefit from listening to as many ways people might listen as we can get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supa Reels Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 11/15/2023 at 2:13 PM, HOOK said: I mix with monitors until a mix sounds great on other speakers, in the real world. Any mix that passes that test also sounds great on decent headphones. Bit late to the party but all of my mixes are produced with various O/P sources having gone through the HOOK test ... gonna keep that one. I wonder how much we've all spent over the years on H/phones/ear buds ( and these I hate ) but.. and studio monitors just to get it right for most people that don't really care as long as it's hot ... Hmm ( I think that's what WHOISP was getting at .. or not ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOK Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Supa Reels said: Bit late to the party but all of my mixes are produced with various O/P sources having gone through the HOOK test ... gonna keep that one. I wonder how much we've all spent over the years on H/phones/ear buds ( and these I hate ) but.. and studio monitors just to get it right for most people that don't really care as long as it's hot ... Hmm ( I think that's what WHOISP was getting at .. or not ) Yeah. That's the thing, right? Never sounds the same ANYWHERE. So...meh...it's like looking at a painting in different lighting. Never looks the same. If it's truly cool, the things that matter get heard and seen...and people relate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I do mix mainly on headphones, but I tend to miss how much bass is coming out of the song. So, I listen using Yamaha HS5s for bass comparison. They help me avoid creating a song with "too much rumble". I once mixed a song using headphones only, took it to a brand new mini van, and it rumbled so horribly! I realized I had to get some monitors, so I could hear that, and prevent that! Once I got the monitors, I was able to correct the rumble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supa Reels Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 12/24/2023 at 5:44 AM, El Diablo said: I do mix mainly on headphones, but I tend to miss how much bass is coming out of the song. So, I listen using Yamaha HS5s for bass comparison. They help me avoid creating a song with "too much rumble". I once mixed a song using headphones only, took it to a brand new mini van, and it rumbled so horribly! I realized I had to get some monitors, so I could hear that, and prevent that! Once I got the monitors, I was able to correct the rumble! Sure it wasn't a flat tyre ....... LOL🚘 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I see more kids using their phone's speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 It needs to sound right when it gets played out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) A great mix on speakers will usually translate well to headphones A mix that sounds great on headphones can often sound unbalanced when heard on speakers ( but that's not to say you can't learn them ) There are lots of reasons why this is the case, some of them are to do with having a driver so close to our ear drums and the individual shape of our ear canals. This can skew the frequency response but is somewhat negated by using speakers as there is more air in between you and the source, some of it is to do with how frequencies combine from each side before they reach our ears which you don't get unless your headphones/controller has a crosstalk feature. Some of it is to do with how quickly ear fatigue sets in which is as much a psycho-acoustic phenomana as anything. There's no one size fits all solution, some people can't have speakers in the enviromnent they mix in and if a room is poorly treated it may actually be better to take the room of the equation and use cans. Personally I would rather mix on proper studio monitors, but my room is well treated and relatively flat so I know it will translate well but my 2nd reference are a set of Slate VSX headphones which can convincingly emulate a number of different listening environments including various headphone types, earbuds etc My best mixes will sound good across all of these emulations so no matter where it gets played you know it will sound as you intended. This quote from SOS mag sums it best for me. https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/mixing-on-headphones-pro-perspective Edited March 10 by Mark Morgon-Shaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Smith Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I bought room/speaker equalization software matched to my headphones and mixes we just ok. Then, in a studio move I stopped using equalization software temporarily and mixed mainly on headphones. To my surprise the mixes translated best without the EQ stuff mixing mainly on headphones. Go figure. I found that if the mix sounded bad it was something I either should have done or didn't do to the mix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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