cclarry Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 which is 90% off. It does amps and cabs (about 20 of each), but also has an IR loader if you want to use your own. Don't go to the VSTOMP site to purchase. The $9.99 sale is at the main HOTONE site.https://shop.hotoneaudio.com/products/vstomp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Neudorf Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 I love hotone's little 5w amp heads. Does anyone have anything positive to say about this VST though? Chinese companies like hotone have a tendency to have really poor support, and one forum member was complaining about its stability. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 https://vstomp.hotoneaudio.com/ProductsDetail.php?id=1 Demo version at top of page, sound clips below. The sound demos on their website don't sound bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 45 minutes ago, Jason Neudorf said: I love hotone's little 5w amp heads. Does anyone have anything positive to say about this VST though? Chinese companies like hotone have a tendency to have really poor support, and one forum member was complaining about its stability. the 5w amps are currently on sale for $69 ($30 off) They sound nice and even have FX loops, but don't need another amp If I was to pick one up I'd probably go for this one, though most of the others sound nice as wellhttps://shop.hotoneaudio.com/products/heart-attackhttps://www.hotoneaudio.com/products/nano-legacy/heart-attack I tried the VST demo. For rock it sounds better than a number of other sims I have. Don't have anything on hand to test the clean or chime tones and need to run some errands so don't have the time to hook up a guitar right now. I bought it but haven't yet received my license - website says order is waiting to be fulfilled. Probably requires a human to process order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Once you get on the Tonex train, all these amp sims lose the appeal. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclarry Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 An updated version of Amp Locker is available for download Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, cclarry said: An updated version of Amp Locker is available for download different developer, different thread Edited August 7, 2023 by TheSteven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 On 8/5/2023 at 8:03 PM, Brian Walton said: Once you get on the Tonex train, all these amp sims lose the appeal. I couldn't care less about scrolling through other people's presets for hours trying to find something that sounds almost right.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artie Choke Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) Yick Yack Yoo Edited August 7, 2023 by Artie Choke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 35 minutes ago, Byron Dickens said: I couldn't care less about scrolling through other people's presets for hours trying to find something that sounds almost right.... Or you can buy a plugin that will never sound or feel right. Yes a lot of what is on tonenet simply isn't all that inspiring but I've been able to find quite a bit of good stuff easily, and also have captured some of my own gear. Now that they released some collections from 3rd parties, I'd suggest typing those user names in and grab the ones they gave for free. Those amps alone can provide a wealth of quality sound if you take some time to adjust the eq and gain for your own taste. I captured a bunch of amp sims using TONEX not only to try them in a pedal board but also to compare to real amp captures. Almost all 150 slots on the pedal got taken up by real gear captures after doing comparisons. A few exceptions exist, but those will likely be on the chopping block. If you have good IRs Tonex has replaced my extensive amp sim collection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Row Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Byron Dickens said: I couldn't care less about scrolling through other people's presets for hours trying to find something that sounds almost right.... Then you sir are missing out on the best Amp Sim there is due to your total misunderstanding. I have been onboard since day one and have never and will never spent one minute scrolling and trolling through ToneNet to get what I want. oh, and what I have sounds more than "almost right" in fact it sounds very right. I Pre-Ordered so I could get it on day one, I knew what was comming, and come it did. I have TONEX MAX, which regardless of what anyone may say, (usually those who don't have it) could be more than enough on it's own, but as we plugin addict types are, among many others there is Amalgam Audio, probably the best https://www.amalgamcaptures.com/tonex I have everything they make. Edited August 7, 2023 by heath row 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 hour ago, heath row said: Then you sir are missing out on the best Amp Sim there is due to your total misunderstanding. I have been onboard since day one and have never and will never spent one minute scrolling and trolling through ToneNet to get what I want. Whatever. I have a 1979 Marshall JMP Mk II 50w Master Lead sitting in my room. I get what I want with the flick of a switch 1 hour ago, Brian Walton said: Or you can buy a plugin that will never sound or feel right. Or I can plug into the afforementioned Marshall 2204.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Row Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Byron Dickens said: Whatever. I have a 1979 Marshall JMP Mk II 50w Master Lead sitting in my room. I get what I want with the flick of a switch Yeah, who hasn't? but the convenience isn't there, especially when the sound and the feel can't really be differentiated between, and all those different textures and iconic sounds from different eras and manufacturers are available to you at the flick of a switch, or press of a button. Edited August 7, 2023 by heath row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Byron Dickens said: Whatever. I have a 1979 Marshall JMP Mk II 50w Master Lead sitting in my room. I get what I want with the flick of a switch Or I can plug into the afforementioned Marshall 2204.... That's why I lately purchased a Marshall Studio Classic, remembering the great sound of the JCM800 that I once owned. And it did not disappoint me, they still make great amps! I still prefer real amps over simulations, but YMMV! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Byron Dickens said: Whatever. I have a 1979 Marshall JMP Mk II 50w Master Lead sitting in my room. I get what I want with the flick of a switch Or I can plug into the afforementioned Marshall 2204.... There is a time and place for both. You always want to play at that kind of volume? I can't imagine having to blast a PA system in my home just to play along with a track. Sure , sometimes but every time? You could capture the amp and get the settings you like to pull them up at anytime. I've done so with an amp that is far more difficult to capture than a 2204 and while it isn't the same thing as playing it in the room with a 4x12 with pre-rolla 30s in it...it does sound and feel quite close to what the experience is like using it in a studio where the cab is isolated and all you really experience is the micd tone. And my house isn't sound proof enough to make a 125db amp not bleed everywhere. Edited August 7, 2023 by Brian Walton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Two words: Power Attenuator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) Kemper (using Rig Manager) is a similar scenario. There are thousands of Profiles that sound terrible. I hear the new "Liquid Profiles"... with modeled Tone Stacks sound excellent. Pretty amazing coming from a 12+ year-old piece of hardware. FWIW, I didn't get ToneX to browse thru other peoples Captures. I got ToneX to Capture my own amps/pedals. IK should update ToneX so it can run multiple Captures simultaneously. ie: It would be great to run an Amp/Cab Capture... with a separate drive/boost Capture. If you use ToneX within Amplitube 5, it's a lot more flexible. Edited August 7, 2023 by Jim Roseberry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Byron Dickens said: Two words: Power Attenuator. As someone who has access to Ken Fischer of Trainwreck amps prototype hand built attenuator and can say with some confidence that a power attenuator is a pretty significant compromise to sound and response. Captures on the otherhand can be made at full tilt so you don't have to endure that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeringAmps Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 The problem with an attenuator is you take the speaker out of the equation. Great amps are a three legged stool. Preamp, power amp and speaker. “Excursion” is a key to the plexi tone. 2 hours ago, Brian Walton said: 4x12 with pre-rolla 30s in it.. Yep, perfect example. No excursion and tone is compromised… t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 #1: A JMP 2204 is not a Plexi. It is a master volume amp and relatively little of the tone comes from the power section. #2: "The problem with an attenuator is you take the speaker out of the equation?" What the hell are you talking about? The power attenuator goes between the amp and the speaker. #3: Excursion? You mean the speaker moving? Funny, nobody complains about a lack of that with small 20, 15 or 5 watt amps. #4: Compromised tone? Ever heard of the Fletcher-Munson curves? What do you think happens to all this "tone" out of that 120db + cranked monster when you record it and play it back at reasonable volumes? That's not "compromised tone," that's physics. Which brings us to #5: Not only does no one in the audience know or care, all you golden-eared wonder boys who swear you can tell the difference between real amps, sims and captures fall apart when confronted with science. You know, like blind tests and eliminating variables.... You get bigger variations in tone by moving the microphone a fraction of an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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