kasey haze Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 My cakewalk is starting to be very difficult to use. There is a massive delay whether I zoom in or out using alt + mouse scroll. Usually 6 to 10 seconds and sometimes up to 15 seconds. Seems as though the further I zoom out the longer the delay. Also delays for 5s - 10s when I scroll using ctrl and mouse direction. I haven't changed any settings and the only thing I've literally installed in 10 months are the updates. Buffer size 23.2msec/1024 samples I also have a latency issue I never had before. I've tried .20sec /8samples and still lags behind. I find each new update is making my cakewalk more unstable than the previous update. Each update I keep saying I won't install new updates but I do in the hope of more stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noynekker Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 If you're looking for some help, probably best to list some of your system specs, like what audio card, audio settings etc . . . and what plugins do you have engaged in your project that might cause this latency issue ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Not seeing such behavior here. Is it a particular project you see this happening with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurre Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Maybe you have to update your graphics driver to a win10 compatible one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I'm not having issues. If you start a new project, does it have the same problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 No problems here ☺️...it must be a local issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Anderton Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 18 hours ago, kasey haze said: the only thing I've literally installed in 10 months are the updates. Might be time to check for driver, graphics card, and other system-oriented updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasey haze Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 Thank you all for replying. My specs are: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.81 GHz processor, 64.0 GB ram, windows 10 pro, I have a basic sound card nothing special. This happens with every project I have now and at times I can't even open up a project. Everything works just fine when I'm zoomed in at 1/64, 1/32, 1/16 but starts lagging at 1/8 (snap notes) I've deleted the picture cache folder which does not help. I haven't tried trouble shooting by removing plugins but I will attempt to today. I will also look to see if I have the most current updates for my pc eg. sound, graphics etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 19 hours ago, kasey haze said: My cakewalk is starting to be very difficult to use. There is a massive delay whether I zoom in or out using alt + mouse scroll. Usually 6 to 10 seconds and sometimes up to 15 seconds. Seems as though the further I zoom out the longer the delay. Also delays for 5s - 10s when I scroll using ctrl and mouse direction. Interesting, I perceived the same behavior with the early access release (2021-09), very very slow zooming with alt + scroll wheel, unusable! Strange that not everybody noticed this! In Sonar Platinum there is no such issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasey haze Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) So after much digging it turns out that cakewalk was creating unnecessary markers everywhere. Looks like markers on top of markers on top of markers with multiple markers on the same time. 010th of a second at times (if I'm reading the numbers correctly I'd say they were in the 10's of thousands judging by the scroll. After deleting all the markers the program worked as before. Below us a screen shot of the markers of one song. First SS is start second SS is the end. This makes very little sense to me. I know I've been using the same template for the songs. I just deleted all the tracks, adjust temp if needed and start recording again. I suppose it's possible that the markers weren't deleted and more were added over time. Edited August 27, 2021 by kasey haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Colin Nicholls Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, kasey haze said: Looks like markers on top of markers on top of markers with multiple markers on the same time. Last time something like this happened, it turned out to be a sticky "M" key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Colin Nicholls said: Last time something like this happened, it turned out to be a sticky "M" key Yes I was about to say the same thing ☺️....try unplugging the KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 So I assume that when you deleted those bogus markers the video stutter went away? Never seen anything like this, and don't have a good explanation, sorry. Although I'm pretty sure the final explanation won't be "the new update is terrible". It's unlikely you accidentally hit "M" 10,000 times. More likely, the problem lies with the keyboard itself. Is it a wireless model and/or a programmable one? Do you use software that lets you define keyboard macros? Have a peek under the "M" keycap and check for lint, crumbs or dead insects that might cause it to stick. True story: I had a keyboard whose spacebar would sometimes stick - removed the keycap and found a sticky orange residue in there. It was from my grandson's juicebox. He thought he'd cleaned up the evidence, but because he'd not yet entered grade school it had not yet been explained to him how liquids work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Oh, how quick some people are to automatically blame the software before they do any of the most basic troubleshooting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasey haze Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 2:38 PM, Colin Nicholls said: Last time something like this happened, it turned out to be a sticky "M" key On 8/27/2021 at 3:52 PM, chimkin2 said: Yes I was about to say the same thing ☺️....try unplugging the KB Maybe the M key got stuck after I smashed the keyboard a few hundred times out of frustration 😡 23 hours ago, bitflipper said: So I assume that when you deleted those bogus markers the video stutter went away? Never seen anything like this, and don't have a good explanation, sorry. Although I'm pretty sure the final explanation won't be "the new update is terrible". It's unlikely you accidentally hit "M" 10,000 times. More likely, the problem lies with the keyboard itself. Is it a wireless model and/or a programmable one? Do you use software that lets you define keyboard macros? Have a peek under the "M" keycap and check for lint, crumbs or dead insects that might cause it to stick. True story: I had a keyboard whose spacebar would sometimes stick - removed the keycap and found a sticky orange residue in there. It was from my grandson's juicebox. He thought he'd cleaned up the evidence, but because he'd not yet entered grade school it had not yet been explained to him how liquids work. You are correct, the stutter went away. My KB is not wireless and I don't eat or drink anything but water in my studio. I have since vacuumed the KB anyways. 22 hours ago, bdickens said: Oh, how quick some people are to automatically blame the software before they do any of the most basic troubleshooting. Oh, how quick some people are to make stupid comments before even asking what type of trouble shooting someone has done. Because you know, looking to see if there are thousands of markers is "the most basic troubleshooting" Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Borthwick Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 In 30 years of Cakewalk I have never seen this issue Glad you figured it out. I can assure you that it has nothing to do with any recent update. If you find out that markers are being created without user intervention please let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 hours ago, kasey haze said: On 8/27/2021 at 7:49 PM, bdickens said: Oh, how quick some people are to make stupid comments before even asking what type of trouble shooting someone has done. Because you know, looking to see if there are thousands of markers is "the most basic troubleshooting" Well played. Oh, well since you didn't bother to mention any the myriad troubleshooting steps you took I can only assume You didn't take any. Because that's how most people who join the forum just prior to complaining about how "Cakewalk don't work" roll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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