Joe Dun Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) I purchased Cakewalk over 30 years ago, when it was $100, thinking I was buying something reasonably easy to use. And over the years, I would start up trying to use it, and spend many hours on it. Try to use the help file, but would not get a sufficient explanation, and sometimes dead links in the on-line help, before giving up. Then, eventually I would try again, only to have the same sort of issues, and eventually get frustrated after trying for a few hours to do something as basic as trying to create an eighth note on the piano score view. I think I have the settings correct to permit this , and but it will only insert a quarter note. I try to edit that note, and cut its duration in half, but it still shows as a quarter note, even if it plays as an eighth. Is there really any hope of using the program if I am primarily using it with the staff view? Are there any other programs that are easier to use for this? -Joe Edited July 24, 2023 by Joe Dun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Guitar Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I replied in the old thread by mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 You have been answered before.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Sounds like your display resolution is set to 1/4 note. Change it to 1/32: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 @Joe Dun do you have fill duration enabled, if so it will always show a bigger note. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wookiee said: @Joe Dun do you have fill duration enabled, if so it will always show a bigger note. Good call. Actually, if all of your notes are "on grid", then you're as well unchecking both "Fill Durations" and "Trim Durations". The only reason those options are there are to show a readable staff view representation for completely unquantized performances. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 30 years and the OP has made no headway???? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Did you try putting in a 2nd 1/8th note or an 1/8th note rest? Edited July 24, 2023 by User 905133 removed original post to save space) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Richards Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Byron Dickens said: 30 years and the OP has made no headway???? Looks like people are beginning to ignore you. You seem to be a snarky little fellow. You may be smart, may be creative, but you don’t seem to be very helpful. I have seen people bend over backwards to help people, me included. I believe that is the purpose of a community forum. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael Richards said: Looks like people are beginning to ignore you. You seem to be a snarky little fellow. You may be smart, may be creative, but you don’t seem to be very helpful. I have seen people bend over backwards to help people, me included. I believe that is the purpose of a community forum. I'm more than happy to point people to resources where they can find the answers they need. That is what real help is rather than spoon feeding them. Teaching how to catch fish rather than just handing them out. You can't help people who won't be helped. This is at least the third thread from the OP on the exact same self-imposed "issue." Much extremely helpful advice has been given and apparently ignored. He's been pointed to John Vere and Creative Sauce's extremely clear and concise tutorials by more than one person. Including me. Both explain things so well and so clearly that even my technophobe wife who hates computers and has nowhere near the software experience this guy claims caught on immediately. If you can't get it between the two of those guys then there really doesn't seem to be much hope... Edited July 24, 2023 by Byron Dickens 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 3:59 PM, Byron Dickens said: I'm more than happy to point people to resources where they can find the answers they need. That is what real help is rather than spoon feeding them. Teaching how to catch fish rather than just handing them out. You can't help people who won't be helped. This is at least the third thread from the OP on the exact same self-imposed "issue." Much extremely helpful advice has been given and apparently ignored. He's been pointed to John Vere and Creative Sauce's extremely clear and concise tutorials by more than one person. Including me. Both explain things so well and so clearly that even my technophobe wife who hates computers and has nowhere near the software experience this guy claims caught on immediately. If you can't get it between the two of those guys then there really doesn't seem to be much hope... It's not so much what you say but how you say it. You can be helpful without the attitude. Try it. People will feel better about you. 🙂John B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Johnbee58 said: It's not so much what you say but how you say it. You can be helpful without the attitude. Try it. People will feel better about you. 🙂John B Or alternatively, people could learn to be a little less sensitive and thin skinned. 99% of all the help & advice given out is in good faith from people offering up their own time to be helpful. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said: Or alternatively, people could learn to be a little less sensitive and thin skinned. 99% of all the help & advice given out is in good faith from people offering up their own time to be helpful. No. I don't buy that. People don't come to this forum to be intimidated in the form of "help". If Mr. Dickson (or anybody else here) can't give help without an attitude and degrading people they should refrain from offering their "help". It's not seen as being helpful. It's seen as INTIMIDATING! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Be NICE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bristol_Jonesey said: 99% of all the help & advice given out is in good faith from people offering up their own time to be helpful. I most definitely agree with you on this. 99% of the help and advise here is given in good faith by some very helpful and PLEASANT people. I've learned most of what I know about Cakewalk by some very wonderful folks here. Everytime I see name Byron Dickins on a forum I see a post from a person with an attitude. You don't have to help people if it frustrates you so much. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 If my manner gives you the vapors so bad, you can always put me on your ignore list and go back to pretending the whole world is sunshine and rainbows and unicorns.... In the meantime, since you're so gung-ho and all about massaging people's poor little feelings you could at least have enough respect to spell their names correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Byron Dickens said: If my manner gives you the vapors so bad, you can always put me on your ignore list and go back to pretending the whole world is sunshine and rainbows and unicorns.... In the meantime, since you're so gung-ho and all about massaging people's poor little feelings you could at least have enough respect to spell their names correctly. Sorry, DICKENS. Please do me a favor. Don't ever respond to any questions I post. Your kind of vile help I don't want or need. In fact, I'm considering not purchasing Cakewalk if I have to put up with people the likes of you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) Oh, dear me. That breaks my heart. I think I'm gonna need some f***ing trauma counseling or some s**t. Edited July 27, 2023 by Byron Dickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 49 minutes ago, Johnbee58 said: In fact, I'm considering not purchasing Cakewalk if I have to put up with people the likes of you. Sorry, but this position seems silly to me. You might not buy Cakewalk because of comments made by a user in a forum??? Sometimes people announce in the forum that they are done with Cakewalk for any of a number of reasons. Personally I think that people are entitled to use or to not use any software based on their own personal preferences, workflows, needs, etc. However, some users vent in the forum to publicly proclaim their dissatisfaction or frustration often pretending to ask questions instead of simply acting on their personal decisions to switch to other software. If you want to switch from Cakewalk to other software, that is a personal decision and in my opinion ought best be done on the basis of your satisfaction or dissatisfaction with the software. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, User 905133 said: Sorry, but this position seems silly to me. You might not buy Cakewalk because of comments made by a user in a forum??? Sometimes people announce in the forum that they are done with Cakewalk for any of a number of reasons. Personally I think that people are entitled to use or to not use any software based on their own personal preferences, workflows, needs, etc. However, some users vent in the forum to publicly proclaim their dissatisfaction or frustration often pretending to ask questions instead of simply acting on their personal decisions to switch to other software. If you want to switch from Cakewalk to other software, that is a personal decision and in my opinion ought best be done on the basis of your satisfaction or dissatisfaction with the software. My dissatisfaction with with the people I have to interact with to get questions answered is also a factor. To me it is part of the "personal preference". But that's OK. Dickens himself gave me the best answer. I've put him and some of his friends in my ignored list, so I needn't be bothered by people like him. Brilliant idea!! Thank you, Byron!!! 😀JB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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