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Ripple Edit superceded delete hole. It works reliably to create or remove space.

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You can use the Arranger (see the Ref. Guide), but if it's going to be the primary version of the song, I would do it the old-fashioned way: 0. Save the project as it is now. 1. Enable Ripple All in the upper right corner of the Track View next to the Auto-Crossfade setting. Ripple All ensures everything in the project (all tracks, tempos, track/bus automation, etc) are moved/copied/pasted/deleted when you move/copy/paste/insert/delete even a small part of one track. 2. Set the Now time to the place where the repeats will start, and Project > Insert Time/Measures. 3. Insert the number of Measure needed to acommodate the three repeats. 4. Select in the timeline or a maybe a clip in some track that conveniently emcompasses the full length of the chorus. 5. Ctrl+C to copy, and then Ctrl+Alt+V to Paste Special with 3 repeats. 6. Add volume automation to the Master bus, with a nodes at 0dB where the fade starts and -Inf where it will end, and choose an the desired curve. I usually like Fast Out over about the last 8-16 measures, depending on the tempo and song structure. 6. Save As the new version with a suffix added to the name like " - Added Chorus Repeats and Fade Out".

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It's worth mentioning this isn't the only way to insert measures: Using Arranger Sections 1. Create an arranger section starting at the point you want to insert, and ending at the end of the project. 2. Make sure "Select Events with Sections" is enabled either in the Selection Module, or under the Track View Options menu. 3. Drag the section by the amount you need. Using Ripple Edit 1. Enable Ripple Edit All 2. Select the area you want to move further in time (e.g. CTRL +A to select all, then drag the start of the section to the time you want the time inserted) 3. Drag any part of the selection by the amount you need. 4. Turn Ripple Edit off !

FWIW if I'm moving everything in time by a few bars, I find Project->Insert Time does the job for me. Under the hood, it's a far simpler operation than ripple edit, so there's much less chance of something going wrong. Another option is to use the arranger.

I just learned the other day that adding tags is a waste of time with You Tube. I used to spend a lot of time adding the maximum amount of tags thinking this would help people find info on the internet. I believe those videos have “Cakewalk ripple editing “ in the tags but it obviously doesn’t seem to work. Glad it helped but you gave me a good title for a future video! I’m holding off on putting out anything about Sonar just yet. I’m hoping they will make official videos like the seem to have done for the Bandlab App. .

@John Vere I actually went to your channel first, hunting for a tutorial with ripple edit in the title. I got the answer in the link you provided once I found the correct video. All of them were informative. Bringing focus to the "right "side of a split really helped. I've been making this way harder than it is .. @Glenn Stanton , I appreciate the suggestion. I like the insert time/measure advice. I also learned the havoc you can create by accidentely leaving the ripple edit on. (this morning) Thanks .. mark

do a split on the audio tracks at the time marker to get the cross fades (it's set to auto) (MIDI tracks don't need to be pre-split) set ripple edit on use project -> insert time/measure, ensure it's going to insert 1 (or however many) at the time selection (very important) and insert turn ripple edit off (very important) i find reliably selecting and dragging a bunch of tracks is an iffy proposition. esp if ripple edit is on and a simple miss on the selection can be a painful recovery.

I do this a lot. Often I need a count in or often after you drags audio file to the timeline to extract the tempo you then need to drag everything to be on the grid. This I have demonstrated in a few videos. But really it’s as simple as activate ripple editing for all. Then CTRL A to select all and drag the whole project to where you want it. If it’s only going to be everything to the right of the cut then make sure to choose that setting in preferences editing. Then when you make the split everything on the right is selected automatically. If it was locked to the grid make sure to choose an appropriate snap setting. Make sure to turn off Ripple when done. I think I demonstrate this in a few videos , try these https://youtu.be/HCOt74rENRg?si=w1j0-NhWsPk1aHBG This is Number 2 in a 3 part series but I think it’s the one that I show splitting up songs if not it’s in part 3 https://youtu.be/EceLttY9dAw?si=IquFY_z-TUiVRpQb

I'm wanting to repeat a 1 bar section on all 16 tracks, and move everything after it forward in the timeline. This seems to happen all the time on a new song .. I normally find the optimal place to cut each track, copy and move them one at a time. I rarely ever get a pop or click. It's efficient, but time comsuming. I'm sure there is an efficient way using ripple edit, but have had no success in the past. Looked online but have'nt found anthing relevant. Thanks .. mark

Hmm. Sonar Platinum came out in 2015. Ripple editing was added in 2017. I dunno, the thing gets updates all the time, and has done for years. This is some alternate reality nonsense we're diving into here.

Sorry, but Ripple Editing was already a part of Sonar Platinum! Though the "20 years" number is an exaggeration, I agree that most of the functionality is already present in Sonar Platinum, even in Sonar X3 there is not a lot of difference IMO! But you are correct that Articulation Maps, Tempo Track, Arranger and the new Export Window have been added to CbB. If you don't use them like me (except export window), then the difference is really feeble! But YMMV, as always!

"Considering the financial journey, I don't think we're gonna perpetual licenses. They don't provide the instant profit shareholders demand and fail to keep users tied to an ancient piece of software which hasn't received significant updates for the last 20 years." Perhaps you missed ripple editing, articulation maps, tempo tracks, and numerous stability fixes while it's been free Maybe you're barking up the wrong tree? My version runs better than it ever did before Bandlab took over

Please don’t throw rocks at me but my list of “bugs “ were 100% pilots error. Rule #1. Don’t expect things to work the way you THINK they should work! Learn how they are designed to work. But it’s good to know about the built in reporting system. I imagine I’ll never have to use it. One of my “bugs” was the arranger track seemed totally messed up. Good old Ripple Edit was still on. I will go on record as saying the new graphics actually suck. I find myself having trouble locating items that are right were they always were but are unfamiliar now. Like the track record button is indistinguishable from the solo button and so far I’ve made that mistake a dozen time already. Is this all better on a new monitor? Mines a 24”. So nothing to see here folks, keep moving. Thank you.

And that Ripple Edit is still on before you do any copy paste if!! It should blink when on!

I’ve been making backing track using a new trick. Cakewalk Next has stem separation tool. This gives me the Bass, Drums , Vocals and then a track called Other which is guitar and keyboard etc. I drag the stems from the Next audio folder into cakewalk. First thing I do is extract the tempo. I drag the drum track to the timeline and this creates a tempo map. First I normalize it to -4db. Audio snap is the old way and it never works perfectly. I find the tempo map created this way is most times perfect. Especially if the drums are more or less steady. And punchy. Next turn on ripple editing use Ctrl A to select whole project and then drag the project so the first downbeat is on the start of a measure. Now check out the drum track to see if the transients are on the grid through the whole song. Now I can replace parts as needed with midi and everything is tight. I find I can actually keep the audio drum track for a lot of songs. So here you have the original drummer in you band now. The bass I convert the stereo stem into mono and drag that to AmpleP Bass. A bit of editing and now I also have the original bass line too. I only use a few keyboard parts in my tracks and I just play along with the original and try to get it close. Having the original vocals and other instruments makes it super easy to nail down the proper parts and arrangement. So far I only had one song that I wasn’t that happy with but it just took extra work to get there. This is a huge step up from using downloaded midi files etc

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It all depends on which order the clips are processed. I've not looked at that code in a while, so I can't recall what determines the order. But say you have two clips right next to each other, and the first clip is processed first. This will result in the second clip being moved to accommodate the first, then the next clip moved again because it's part of the selection. If however the second clip was moved first, both would move as expected. As I said, it's the wrong tool for the job when dealing with the entire project. Insert Time is the one to use in this scenario, as it's a far simpler command and far less complicated than either ripple edit or slide (therefore much less chance of anything going wrong).

As @John Vere notes Ripple edit all, just remember to turn it off or you will wonder what is happening if you don't.

Or with Ripple edit on - use CTRL A to select all - snap on - drag project to desired location. This will also move automation, tempo map , arranger etc. Im not sure using insert measure does all that. As said always remember to turn ripple editing off. Ripple Editing is global to many music and video editing apps. It’s a lifesaver for inserting or removing segments of any multi track projects. But selecting all is important for it to work.

couple of thoughts - use Ripple Edit (turn on when needed, turn off immediately after), and use the project > insert time/measures as i think there are more options there. remember to turn off Ripple Edit after you make the move otherwise you can really skew the project... as to why "slide" is misbehaving, no idea, never use it.

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did you have ripple edit on or off during the cut/delete operations? Cakewalk - Cakewalk Documentation - Ripple editing https://legacy.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Arranging.33.html

A tempo track node way out in the timeline will also cause this, in which case Ripple All helps ensure the node is included.