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I have never had any success with trying this method. As far as I can tell, Cakewalk and Sonar do not provide for any audio input to a virtual instrument. I can get it to work in Reaper.

I guess you could always delete the unwanted items, then save a copy of the file, while preserving the original file.

That could be an issue with any synth that loads samples. You are basically stuck with the way that the sample was recorded, and as scook says, there is a limit to what an envelope can do with that. It cannot add sound where there is none in the recording.

I think he was attempting to be fair, but tough and honest in his stated opinions. These could be taken as constructive suggestions for enhancements by the development team. As a 20 year user of Cakewalk products, I cannot argue with some of his conclusions: Cakewalk is littered with half-finished features. Luckily, the core features necessary for basic music making are in tact. For simple recording and mixing, Cakewalk is excellent. I can understand why people enjoy the software. There’s no shame (or anything negative at all!) about having basic needs. Cakewalk gets the basics right for the most part. As a free product Cakewalk is fantastic. If I was paying $50 a month for it, I’d be quite unhappy for the value. I know that the paid version came with a lot of bonus plugins/addons, but the core functionality is behind the competitors. I can say that Cakewalk is worth the price you paid, possibly a bit more. Hopefully bandlab can do something with the software to shore up the half-finished features and enhance the core workflows. I don’t even care about the features that aren’t there. If Bandlab just took what’s already there and fixed it, it would be a great product.

The "Dude" abides... [/fify]

New Year Resolution: I will resist the GAS!!!

Windows 10 really whips the llama's butt on an SSD. But not so much on my laptop with a spinning drive. Highly recommend running Win 10 on an SSD.

Beyond All Potential Unbelievable.

Windows 7 is nearing end of life and end of support from Microsoft. So best to prepare for that eventuality, just like with Win XP and Vista. In addition to my Win 10 DAW, I still have a laptop that runs Windows XP and Sonar 8.5. They work well together because that release of Sonar was currently supported on XP. Consider that if you prefer to run an older OS, that it's best to stick with DAW software that was developed on that OS. It would be ideal if things just worked forever, but the realities of the OS internals affect application function and performance as the OS evolves over time. Developers likely switched to Win 10 as their main development platform a couple of years ago. So if you want to run the latest applications, you are in a better position for testing and support if you also run the latest OS.

Just checked that out. Looks good, and it is cross platform!

CbB probably needs to be Mac friendly in order to be fully assimilated by the educational market.

Yep, I got that hardware angle figured out. No intentional misleading data. Wasn't actually trying to do an apples to apples (no pun) software vs. hardware revenue comparison, rather just to point out the deep, deep pockets that Apple Corp has. They could probably give away Logic Pro without making a dent in their corporate bottom line. They probably won't do that if folks are willing to pay, though.

I'm afraid that might be the bottom line. You might be able to give away a CbB for Mac, but I doubt you could sell against Logic Pro X, which at $199 is sort of a no-brainer if you have a Mac. Just for reference, Apple owns Logic, and Apple is currently the most valuable company in the world, with a market cap of $926 billion USD. https://www.statista.com/statistics/263264/top-companies-in-the-world-by-market-value/ I'm sure that this discussion will continue until @Meng says, "(a) no way Jose", "(b) maybe, we should look into it further", or "(c) we'll definitely give it a shot"!

I think I have heard it explained by Noel that there was a long standing partnership with Microsoft developers that allowed Cakewalk to leverage many of the higher performance audio features of Windows first, as they became available. Cakewalk has been around for over 30 years, and had its roots in DOS as a MIDI sequencer. That would have been important as Cakewalk evolved into a very strong audio/MIDI DAW for Windows, and then as it matured into what we have today.

I think that's a cool idea, but the bakers already tried that and decided that it was a major, major, re-write. The strength of Cakewalk and Sonar on the Windows platform is also its Achilles heel as far as being ported to another platform. It is very tightly wrapped with Windows code libraries and much would have to be coded from scratch in another universe to get the same functionality. A complex DAW app would need to be designed from the ground up for cross platform compatibility in order to avoid the re-coding necessary to make it work after the fact. I agree that a cross platform DAW app would have wider appeal, but the technical issues involved with achieving that goal are not insignificant.

Well when Bapu created the "Beyond Cakewalk" forum he imported our post counts from the Cakewalk forum. The man!!!

That's a good suggestion. But if they are just trying to keep the avatar section clean, maybe add location to sig.

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SynthMaster 2.9.8 has a new white skin by satYatunes ... and 50 new factory presets from Kevin Schroeder. The forum has shrunk the original direct attachment: So here is a link to the full size image url at a 3rd party hosting site:

Was wondering about the studio section as well, with the hardware, computer and software forums. Lots of information sharing going on over there.

Looks good! Thanks for all of the hard work!

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