User 905133

It sounds to me based on your reply that you think that everyone's workflow should be identical to everyone else's workflow, that everyone uses the program the same way that you do, and/or everyone should do things your way. If so, that is your choice, but I disagree. In fact one of the things that I have long appreciated about SONAR/Cakewalk is its extreme flexibility and customizability. Maybe you also agree that every feature available in one view should be available in every view. I don't know, because rather than responding to a reasonable request stated in a reasonable way you became insulting and swore at me.

Dude, I was just trying to understand your workflow. So I asked a respectful question in a respectful manner. Rather than respond with respect, you gave a terse and said to re-read the original post as if I would find something that addressed what I was asking about. I re-read it, still didn't find what I was addressing, and added but I didn't think it was worth discussing. When you replied with something non-responsive to what I was asking about, and had an if . . . then . . . statement, I simply pointed out that your logic was a nin-sequitur. You replied with name calling. If you want to continue the path from reasonable discussion to name calling, I will give that more thought--if you insist.

ad ho·mi·nem (adjective) - (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

Since you insist:

Some footnotes: (1) Not recommending Perfect Space over any of the others, but somehow I have the 32-bit version in Cakewalk. It works on my 64 bit PC. (2) If you like Melda's MConvolutionEZ reverb (free or licensed version), they have a Multi-Band version (paid): MConvolutionMB. Not saying these would meet your needs, just adding some information that I didn't see above in case it helps with you decision making.

I re-read as per your suggestion. I guess I don't see what you are proposing as being consistent with what happens within Cakewalk when I drag and drop a new instrument in the track view. UPDATE: But its really not worth any more time discussing. Sorry I asked.

Trying to understand the proposed workflow. So far as I can see, dropping and dragging an instrument from the Browser to an empty [non-track] area in the Track View opens up the Insert Soft Synth dialog. Are you also proposing an Insert FX dialog?

I just checked again (under Windows 10 v. 1903 and v. 2004): mouse-wheel scroll still works for loop packs, list, but not the filter. Not a problem for me as I have yet to use them, though I did download them and listened to a few.

The first thing that came to my mind when I read your query was the non-PRV method--which you mention: arm multiple midi tracks and record simultaneously. So, I am wondering: is your request is basically for a method that works in the PRV [i.e., the ability to arm multiple tracks] as opposed to drawing (so you don't have to use the track view)? For me, using a slider on a usb keyboard is drawing and is personally easier for me [i.e., greater control with less effort] than using a mouse (or a mod wheel, a knob, etc.). I don't use the PRV, but as more features are added [such as expression/articulation maps], I give it more thought as people mention workflows that use it. So I had no idea we couldn't do something like the above in the PRV. Thanks.

Just a guess, but if you had experience with either a hardware or software sampler plus experience with a hardware rompler it would be intuitive. Hardware ROMplers have samples encoded in ROM [Read Only Memory]. They cannot create samples. So called soft synth ROMplers cannot create samples either--just like hardware ROMplers.

Thanks for the clarification. The seemingly contradictory comments make sense now! Real instruments on recorded on audio tracks [external audio sources] v. audio from soft synths recorded either on (1) hybrid instrument tracks [midi + audio combined] or (2) audio tracks with a midi track pointing to an audio track [split instrument track].

Glad you got it, but I am curious to know about the above. To me, if you only want to record the controller (not specific sounds) you do not want to record audio.

Just sharing a work-around I am using for FX processing with Z3ta+ in a non-DAW host: I turn the oscillators to off. I like that "FX only" presets can be saved and recalled. Maybe this will meet your needs until someone suggests a better solution to using just the fx plug-in.

It looks like Bandlab Assistant successfully updated to 6.1.0.2587, but that doesn't seem to clear the Update button. I did restart Bandlab Assistant after I was sure it wasn't still in task manager; I did not restart my PC yet. Maybe that will clear the flag. Maybe there is a later/different build that clears the Update button. Will try the direct link. Plenty of options to try to clear the button. Not urgent on my part because Cakewalk seems to work as it did before the Quasi-Update. Update: Without rebooting the PC, I ran the installer again and the the button no longer says "Update." Hope this helps others with the same issue.

Actually, I looked up "automation" in the most recent Theme Editing Guide (v.2020.10.13) rather than the Reference Manual. Do the buttons on page 24 look like what you are seeing?

Out of curiosity, are you trying to play old *.wrk files created on Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 basically as a MIDI sequencer controlling external MIDI gear?

Try recording both the midi track and the audio track at the same time.** If you did not insert them as a split track, split them. Note: This is old school; there might be newer, better ways to do it. I just tested this quickly and it seems to still work, but I did not test it thoroughly in CbB. If someone with more recent knowledge/experience points out there are problems with this method, don't follow it. **Addendum (10/16/2020): (1) Old school method works. (2) Pressing record [aka arm] button in folder containing the non-combined midi and audio track arms both.

Footnote: With TTS-1 you can assign audio from the 16 midi channels to any of four outputs as shown here and here.

Since Articulation Maps seem to be forthcoming, maybe Expression Maps are on the drawing board, too? Thanks for sharing your music.

PS: JMO: I don't think your question is silly at all. The "Missing Feature" question has been raised in the forum many times. Also, Cakewalk is quite robust; there is so much to learn with Cakewalk. Plus Workspaces are often misunderstood, overlooked, not used, etc. Learning how to effectively use, customize, and create personal Workspaces is not an easy task. Don't get me wrong--I think they are great!!!!!!! Just saying, if your issue turns out to be a simple matter of changing the "Basic" Workspace to almost any other Workspace (or "None"), you should not feel it was a silly or inappropriate question.

Maybe my intent did not come across clearly enough. Sorry.

Does it work properly without using the manager? Mine seems to work both directly and with the manager. Not sure this helps; just reporting results I got.

This seems to be consistent with Cakewalk's customization flexibility. I have been wanting the scroll wheel to work in the Notes Browser when in edit mode (it works in read mode), but it makes sense to me to have each view/subview have its own settable assortment of mouse wheel options.

Executive Summary: I believe the developers have been sensitive to the needs of non-long-term users as evidenced in part by the new user wizard: Help > Get Started: etc. Just my opinion, but I think the team has done (and continues to do) a praiseworthy job at (1) honoring (a) the software's multi-decade tradition, (b) its many and varied users, and (c) the flexibility of multiple needs and workflows (i.e., different categories of users/consumers) and (2) balancing the needs of many levels of newcomers (i.e., new to audio software, analog and digital recording/production, DAWs, and Cakewalk specifically). Personally, I like that Cakewalk allows users to choose how to set up these parameters. Personally, it bothers me that Windows 10 sets up and makes changes against my wishes almost every time Windows 10 either updates itself or tries to update itself. To me it shows that Cakewalk's developers care about their users experiences and customized workflow preferences. Apologies if some users feel this is "off-topic," but I think it is a directly on-topic response to the OP's valid concerns. I am not sure if there is a pop-up prompt that defaults to the opening of the "Get Started" wizard when there is a new-to-Cakewalk user. If not, perhaps it might help new users if the installer detected new users and had a pop-up dialog that encouraged users to try the wizard--perhaps with some tool-tip/help buttons on each page of the wizard to explain the basis for the choices to be made. In short, I think that if the OP did not know to use the wizard or found it lacking in details, more could be done to get new-comers on board, but at the same time, I don't feel it is a "bug" that Cakewalk allows users to configure the settings themselves.

Not sure if this will fit into your workflow or if you have tried it already, but Take Lanes have a space for notes.