audioschmaudio Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) Another good source for DX presets in the sysex format, which can be imported into FM8, is this one http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/yamaha_dx7/dx7_patches.html The "ALL THE WEB PATCHES" download has more than 12,000 files and I think each file is a soundbank with 32 presets. Edited August 12, 2023 by audioschmaudio 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fret_man Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 12 hours ago, MrFigg said: ...and I just found the 60,000 FM8 patches by Zombie Fights Shark which I got in the Everything Bundle and thought I'd never use. Hmmm, no longer for sale and Wayback Machine doesn't seem to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 There's btoo much stuff , any direct link to those DX presets ? If i get the sysex for a DX 7 , can i import those to fm8 or fm8 needs a specific format ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 By the way just tried a random bank , yep FM8 import those and even the Arturia one !!! coooool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioschmaudio Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zo said: By the way just tried a random bank , yep FM8 import those and even the Arturia one !!! coooool 26 minutes ago, Zo said: There's btoo much stuff , any direct link to those DX presets ? If i get the sysex for a DX 7 , can i import those to fm8 or fm8 needs a specific format ? Are my comments a joke to you? 😐 I already mentioned that FM8 can import sysex files and I gave a direct link to a huge collection of such files. The collection also contains the original DX7 banks, I believe. Edited August 13, 2023 by audioschmaudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, audioschmaudio said: Are my comments a joke to you? 😐 I already mentioned that FM8 can import sysex files and I gave a direct link to a huge collection of such files. The collection also contains the original DX7 banks, I believe. Nope , i have stuff from original synth so i wondered if i could get thos sysex direct or did it needed something else .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I'm surpised how a same patches sounds different in FM 8 and Arturias one , velocity settings plays a role but not only ....strange .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFigg Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 8 hours ago, fret_man said: Hmmm, no longer for sale and Wayback Machine doesn't seem to help. No, ZFM closed up shop a while ago so I bought the everything bundle at the last minute. I Googled free FM8 patches and saw that he'd made 60k so went back to my Gumroad purchases and there it was. I'd jumped over it as I didn't have FM8 at the time. To be honest I think he's just downloaded all the free Dexed files and batch converted them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Still wonder8ng why NI never bothered to redsign gui at least with resize ... Also am i tripping or fx order could be re route at one point ? I really need to learn fm8 more lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioschmaudio Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Zo said: Nope , i have stuff from original synth so i wondered if i could get thos sysex direct or did it needed something else .... The "All the web patches" link has them in the folder "Dexed v1_0 (Black Winny)/DXCARTFO". But you can also download just the factory patches from https://yamahablackboxes.com/collection/yamaha-dx7-synthesizer/patches/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, audioschmaudio said: you can also download just the factory patches from https://yamahablackboxes.com/collection/yamaha-dx7-synthesizer/patches/ Ah ha! I forgot where that site was! Edited August 13, 2023 by TheSteven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, audioschmaudio said: But you can also download just the factory patches from https://yamahablackboxes.com/collection/yamaha-dx7-synthesizer/patches/ There's another page on this website that has DX7II patches:https://yamahablackboxes.com/collection/yamaha-dx7ii-fd-synthesizer/patches/ You can import the 'voice' patches (16 banks, 32 patches each) into FM8 but not the 'performance' syx files. Another source of DX7 Patches:https://homepages.abdn.ac.uk/d.j.benson/pages/html/dx7.html#patches 4 Brian Eno DX7 patches - these are just the settings, you'll have to enter them manually and save them) or download the PDF here:https://reverb.com/software/presets/reverb/2715-brian-eno-yamaha-dx7-patches Edited August 13, 2023 by TheSteven 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Zo said: I'm surpised how a same patches sounds different in FM 8 and Arturias one , velocity settings plays a role but not only ....strange .. i guess different engines and different interpretations of the emulation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, TheSteven said: There's another page on this website that has DX7II patches:https://yamahablackboxes.com/collection/yamaha-dx7ii-fd-synthesizer/patches/ You can import the 'voice' patches (16 banks) into FM8 but not the 'performance' patches. Another source of DX7 Patches:https://homepages.abdn.ac.uk/d.j.benson/pages/html/dx7.html#patches 4 Brian Eno DX7 patches - these are just the settings, you'll have to enter them manually and save them) or download the PDF here:https://reverb.com/software/presets/reverb/2715-brian-eno-yamaha-dx7-patches nice. added to my bookmarks to analyze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Zo said: I'm surpised how a same patches sounds different in FM 8 and Arturias one , velocity settings plays a role but not only ....strange .. I've heard similar complaints with other DX synths. Apparently not all softsynths import/interpret the syx files the same. Another thing maybe be because the FM8 was modeled after the DX7II, if the Arturia's DX7 V was 'accurately' modeled after a DX7 that might also account for some of the differences. Per EvilDragon on GearSpace about DX7 (hardware) vs FM8 sound differences: "The math is the same, yes. Now, it depends on the calculator which does that math. DX7 had limited CPU power and I would think that samples in it weren't calculated as 32 or 64-bit floats, which is what FM8 is doing. That's why FM8 sounds "cleaner" and not as "grungy" - it has more precise calculations." Edited August 13, 2023 by TheSteven 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFigg Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Wooaaaah. I thought UAD were bad for installing crap all over the place on my PC. Just checked NI using BCUninstaller...maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 10 hours ago, audioschmaudio said: The "All the web patches" link has them in the folder "Dexed v1_0 (Black Winny)/DXCARTFO". But you can also download just the factory patches from https://yamahablackboxes.com/collection/yamaha-dx7-synthesizer/patches/ Superb Thks !!! 9 hours ago, TheSteven said: There's another page on this website that has DX7II patches:https://yamahablackboxes.com/collection/yamaha-dx7ii-fd-synthesizer/patches/ You can import the 'voice' patches (16 banks, 32 patches each) into FM8 but not the 'performance' syx files. Another source of DX7 Patches:https://homepages.abdn.ac.uk/d.j.benson/pages/html/dx7.html#patches 4 Brian Eno DX7 patches - these are just the settings, you'll have to enter them manually and save them) or download the PDF here:https://reverb.com/software/presets/reverb/2715-brian-eno-yamaha-dx7-patches great !! 8 hours ago, telecode 101 said: i guess different engines and different interpretations of the emulation 8 hours ago, TheSteven said: I've heard similar complaints with other DX synths. Apparently not all softsynths import/interpret the syx files the same. Another thing maybe be because the FM8 was modeled after the DX7II, if the Arturia's DX7 V was 'accurately' modeled after a DX7 that might also account for some of the differences. Per EvilDragon on GearSpace about DX7 (hardware) vs FM8 sound differences: "The math is the same, yes. Now, it depends on the calculator which does that math. DX7 had limited CPU power and I would think that samples in it weren't calculated as 32 or 64-bit floats, which is what FM8 is doing. That's why FM8 sounds "cleaner" and not as "grungy" - it has more precise calculations." I think what i feel is also the enveloppes , and velocity curves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 @audioschmaudio may i ask what' syour choice software wise for that FM / DX vibe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioschmaudio Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Zo said: @audioschmaudio may i ask what' syour choice software wise for that FM / DX vibe ? I'm not a synth expert, never worked with the hardware synthesizer. I'm just a hobbyist. Dexed, FM8 and Arturia DX7 V all sound very good to me, but I don't have trained ears or professional speakers. What I can judge though is the user interface and here Arturia is my clear favourite. I like how it looks, the preset browser, the integrated tutorials and how you can access all its presets from within Analog Lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, TheSteven said: I've heard similar complaints with other DX synths. Apparently not all softsynths import/interpret the syx files the same. Another thing maybe be because the FM8 was modeled after the DX7II, if the Arturia's DX7 V was 'accurately' modeled after a DX7 that might also account for some of the differences. Thanks @TheSteven ! I didn't know that it is possible to import sysx files into FM8. I just have loaded the factory presets (almost unchanged) that I had exported of my DX7II (bought in the 80s and I still have it). Many of the sounds are almost the same as the original, but there are some with pitch changes that sound completely awful in the FM8 (the pitch changes too much). I had noticed the same thing with Dexed some years ago, where I tried the patches the first time. Edited August 13, 2023 by MarcL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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