Brian Walton Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 27 minutes ago, MrFigg said: Just tried it with my Fender Precision. Didn’t like it. Put my Jazzmaster through it. Pretty nice. I’m away to order an AC30 now. I'd just use ToneX. There are quite a few excellent AC30 profiles (of different eras). And there are many variations of what an AC30 is. A pre-top boost AC30 isnt' anything like a modern AC30, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFigg Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 37 minutes ago, Brian Walton said: I'd just use ToneX. There are quite a few excellent AC30 profiles (of different eras). And there are many variations of what an AC30 is. A pre-top boost AC30 isnt' anything like a modern AC30, etc. No no no. I mean I’m going to order a real Vox AC30 so I can do stereo with my Fender HotRod Deluxe and this pedal I just got built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, MrFigg said: tried it with my Fender Precision have yet to find a bass sim that works for me. picked up the PA B-15 when it went native but it sounds -nothing- like the one i have. 40 minutes ago, Brian Walton said: ToneX. There are quite a few excellent AC30 profiles this ^^. pretty much the only reason i gave Tonex a spin. fwiw, the only PA amp that ever got any use here is the Train II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFigg Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, jackson white said: have yet to find a bass sim that works for me. picked up the PA B-15 when it went native but it sounds -nothing- like the one i have. Kuassa!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esteban Villanova Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, jackson white said: have yet to find a bass sim that works for me. picked up the PA B-15 when it went native but it sounds -nothing- like the one i have. You may wanna try the Softube bass amps, the Eden one in particular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, jackson white said: have yet to find a bass sim that works for me. picked up the PA B-15 when it went native but it sounds -nothing- like the one i have. this ^^. pretty much the only reason i gave Tonex a spin. fwiw, the only PA amp that ever got any use here is the Train II. Have you tried any of the Bass amp captures in ToneX? The PA B-15 can be ok with a good external IR and I always think of these things in terms of the "mic'd" sound instead of the full range of an amp which is a very different thing. I get some use out of the PA V4B , but again external IRs can be helpful in addition to post processing. I like the Train II and was one of the only in the box sims that started to win me over, that said - some actual Wreck captures with ToneX are on a different level. Edited March 31, 2023 by Brian Walton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Brian Walton said: I like the Train II and was one of the only in the box sims that started to win me over, that said - some actual Wreck captures with ToneX are on a different level. Do you have the links to specific Wreck ones and any other of your favourites in ToneX Brian? I've approached ToneX a few times, but it's been a bit hit and miss so far, but I'd like to check it out further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, MusicMan said: Do you have the links to specific Wreck ones and any other of your favourites in ToneX Brian? I've approached ToneX a few times, but it's been a bit hit and miss so far, but I'd like to check it out further. Liverpool 3 is outstanding, but all of those Liverpool ones are excellent (and IMO, better than anything I heard IKM release - and I have MAX). https://www.tone.net/tonex/users/holy_grail ToneJunkie has a Express 60 paid pack I recommend on his website, but he also gave away some samples - note this is a Master Volume Trainwreck which is under the Trainwreck official name/release but it wasn't one of the 3 models Kenny made himself for public sale. https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/19394 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/20155 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/20154 (paid version below) https://tonejunkiestore.com/tonexcap/twreck-express-60-tonex-capture-pack (also suggest signing up for his mailing list as he gives away free captures there that he doens't upload to tone net - this includes a full capture of a vintage AC30 from 1966, and I think a 65 Twin Reverb, also a couple profiles of a Purple Plexi and most likley a Express 60 or two) The others are ok, but they are basically Kemper profiles - so you are getting that degridation in there and not the full capability of what ToneX can do with a direct capture: https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/16116 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/11073 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/16115 And if you want the Train II sound (but in ToneX pedal form) https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/19588 Also in the Wreck vein: These of a Dr. Z Wreck Jr. are pretty awesome: https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/19335 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/20768 Edited April 1, 2023 by Brian Walton 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 18 hours ago, Brian Walton said: Have you tried any of the Bass amp captures in ToneX? not yet, mainly because not a big fan of wading thru a walmart of tones to find anything usable. thx for the tonex recos. 18 hours ago, Brian Walton said: The PA B-15 can be ok with a good external IR and I always think of these things in terms of the "mic'd" sound instead of the full range of an amp which is a very different thing. no luck the couple of times i gave it shot. but with ya on the "mic'd" sound. markbass into a berg cab is working really well atm, trying to capture that w/o having to pony up for a fet47, planning to try amp out post-eq into some berg ir's, but haven't had a chance to sort that out yet (smoked the markbass, waiting on r&r). that being said. sessions are usually just a pbass > di (redd tube/demeter) > neve channel... 🙂 19 hours ago, Esteban Villanova said: the Softube bass amps, the Eden one in particular thx, great suggestion, was not on my radar. played through an eden rig for a couple of years and ya, one of the best sounding ever. their 4x10 is still my goto when I need to fill out space on a larger stage. 20 hours ago, MrFigg said: Kuassa!!! thx, have this (cerebus?), but didn't get there for me, reminded me more of swr (which i have but no longer use) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 20 hours ago, Brian Walton said: Liverpool 3 is outstanding, but all of those Liverpool ones are excellent (and IMO, better than anything I heard IKM release - and I have MAX). https://www.tone.net/tonex/users/holy_grail ToneJunkie has a Express 60 paid pack I recommend on his website, but he also gave away some samples - note this is a Master Volume Trainwreck which is under the Trainwreck official name/release but it wasn't one of the 3 models Kenny made himself for public sale. https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/19394 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/20155 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/20154 (paid version below) https://tonejunkiestore.com/tonexcap/twreck-express-60-tonex-capture-pack (also suggest signing up for his mailing list as he gives away free captures there that he doens't upload to tone net - this includes a full capture of a vintage AC30 from 1966, and I think a 65 Twin Reverb, also a couple profiles of a Purple Plexi and most likley a Express 60 or two) The others are ok, but they are basically Kemper profiles - so you are getting that degridation in there and not the full capability of what ToneX can do with a direct capture: https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/16116 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/11073 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/16115 And if you want the Train II sound (but in ToneX pedal form) https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/19588 Also in the Wreck vein: These of a Dr. Z Wreck Jr. are pretty awesome: https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/19335 https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/20768 Thanks Brian! That's really helpful 🙂 Looking forward to checking some of these out and having another proper go at it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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