Asato Maa Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) Dear developers! It would be very interesting to know about plans to finalize the Matrix module! If it, this module, would be improved to the level of Cakewalk Project 5, it would be the best alternative to Bitwig and Ableton on the market!!! At the moment, for me personally, the module is useless. But it could become a very cool and very popular feature, which is in Bitwig and Logic. Let's support the idea to finalize the matrix (already written about it on the forum) and make it one of the features of the future Sonar! What do you think? Edited February 29 by Asato Maa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 On 2/29/2024 at 10:43 AM, Asato Maa said: What do you think? I think I'm interested to know more about what you think is missing from the Matrix as currently implemented, vs. Project 5 (and Bitwig, FL, Ableton Live, and so forth). What features should be added? What features should be changed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asato Maa Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 10 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: I think I'm interested to know more about what you think is missing from the Matrix as currently implemented, vs. Project 5 (and Bitwig, FL, Ableton Live, and so forth). What features should be added? What features should be changed? There are many errors in the matrix. Copying clips was implemented with errors. The logic by which he inserts clips into 2 or 3 tracks is unclear. The work in the matrix is implemented for the most part for drums. The clip can only be opened in the sequencer. It would be convenient to use a matrix like in Bitwig to store options and sketches. And then be able to open clips in piano roll. Which was implemented in Project 5. And now in Bitwig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 On 3/6/2024 at 7:25 PM, Asato Maa said: Which was implemented in Project 5 Well, if it was in Project 5, then it means the code is probably in BandLab's possession. There is hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Starship Krupa said: Well, if it was in Project 5, then it means the code is probably in BandLab's possession. There is hope. Most likely not as Project 5 was 32bit code 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, InstrEd said: Most likely not as Project 5 was 32bit code I meant the source code. Source code isn't 32 or 64 or any bit until its compiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan o driscoll Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) @Asato Maa Add me to the list for this request. Over atthe NEXT Beat Discord channel I mentioned similar in the Next Suggestions section: "In NEXT we have the PAD CONTROLLER which is similar-ish to the Matrix View in Sonar? Here I would love to see a CAKEWALK take on Abletons Session View. To maybe expand the PAD CONTROLLER so you can add samples, instruments, midi etc to the cells/columns. Then be able to play rows as well as columns .. great for creativity" Below is the ableton session view with sample track - 2nd row being played by pressing the play button over right under MAin / 2 Edited March 31 by aidan o driscoll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 3/30/2024 at 8:03 AM, Starship Krupa said: I meant the source code. Source code isn't 32 or 64 or any bit until its compiled. i used p5 a lot, and never understood why they never bothered releasing a x64 version 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, pwal³ said: i used p5 a lot, and never understood why they never bothered releasing a x64 version It seems to be much missed by the people who used it. I don't know the timeline, but maybe Cakewalk, Inc. pulled the plug on it before 64-bit became a must-have thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 nah, everyone was going (or had gone x64) and there were hints in the forum that it would happen, but then the plug was suddenly pulled, i guess they didn't have the funding at that point to justify the effort... ah well, at least sonar has survived 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 4/1/2024 at 5:00 AM, pwal³ said: nah, everyone was going (or had gone x64) and there were hints in the forum that it would happen, but then the plug was suddenly pulled, i guess they didn't have the funding at that point to justify the effort I suspect that when a company has to decide whether to spend resources on being compatible with some advancement in technology, we see more than the usual number of products being dropped. We saw it happen in the past few years with multiple plug-ins due to Apple coming out with their own processors and then announcing that the backward compatibility layer was going to be removed. So do we keep updating this plug-in that seems to have run its course or do we drop it and come out with an improved version? iZotope dropped a bunch of stuff in the past couple of years. Break Tweaker, half a dozen Exponential reverbs, Iris 2, Trash 2. I suspect that was the choice there, do we invest in updating these oldies for Apple Silicon or just retire them? Tough noogies for people who want to keep using them on their Macs, but take it up with Apple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 tbf it had nothing to do with apple (and their deliberate shelf-life business plan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 18 hours ago, pwal³ said: tbf it had nothing to do with apple (and their deliberate shelf-life business plan) Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that it had. I was trying to draw a parallel between the transition from 32-bit Windows apps to 64-bit ones and the transition from Intel Mac apps to Apple Silicon apps. As something that might cause some companies to decide that it wasn't worth updating their products. Which is what I thought may have happened with Project 5, but then you informed me that the move to 64-bit programs was well along its way when the plug was pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 yeah i think they ran out of funding so focussed on sonar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 4/1/2024 at 3:57 AM, Starship Krupa said: It seems to be much missed by the people who used it. I don't know the timeline, but maybe Cakewalk, Inc. pulled the plug on it before 64-bit became a must-have thing? It wasn't quite a must have at the time, even though the writing was on the wall. Also, Cakewalk did one last survey of what things people thought was most important before their last release and "Input Quantization" seems to have won. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asato Maa Posted Wednesday at 07:38 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 07:38 AM (edited) Hi there! Tracktion Waveform 13 has a clip launcher now! I think that Cakewalk Sonar needs this feature in the Matrix View!! Edited Thursday at 06:33 AM by Asato Maa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted Thursday at 05:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:15 PM Isn't Matrix a clip launcher? It seems like the biggest missing feature from Matrix is the ability to record directly into a Matrix clip slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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