Keni Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I don’t know if this is good or bad but it caught my attention. So I thought to post it here to see what thoughts people might have here... ...a little scary watching all our favorite developers eaten up by conglomerates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) Moog is a far cry from the quirky inventive company conceptualized by Bob Moog. Pretty much all of their modern synths have that price because of branding and because of the price of US labor being passed to the consumer, since Moog assembles their products in the US from Asian sourced components done to their specs. Edited June 13, 2023 by Bruno de Souza Lino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said: Moog is a far cry from the quirky inventive company conceptualized by Bob Moog. Pretty much all of their modern synths have that price because of branding and because of the price of US labor being passed to the consumer, since Moog assembles their products in the US from Asian sourced components done to their specs. Yes... they are not the same company as when Bob was alive. Would you really expect otherwise? 🙂 ...and pricing? Well, the still make (arguably) one of the best product lines in the synth market (to me) and I still dream of owning a Model 15 and a Memorymoog before I die! oh, I’ve owned a Minimoog but sadly no longer. Edited June 13, 2023 by Keni 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I just saw the Email. When the founder passes (or even just moves on), a company is often never quite the same. The original passion and vision just aren't there. I hope this doesn't end up like Creative/Emu. I had an original MiniMoog Model D (bought it from a HS band-mate for $50). It was badly in need of service... and I let it sit and collect dust (for years). Finally sold it to a friend. Always loved that raw "electric" sound. It's almost like you can hear the electricity running thru it. Forward to a couple years ago. I saved and liquidated a lot of gear to grab a MoogOne. I was hoping it would be my one-and-done "be all" analog synth. On paper, it should have been exactly that. In reality, it had serious intonation issues... that go far beyond analog drift. The reissue Model D (MiniMoog) and Matriarch don't suffer from this issue... neither do the OB-X8 or Prophet 10 (or any other modern analog). Gave up on the idea of having a polyphonic Moog. Decided to get rid of several things and just grab the reissue Model D. It's uber simple... but it has THAT sound. I can leave the Model D on for days... and intonation is tighter than the One. Sad... but not surprising. Akai is still releasing new (somewhat innovative) products under InMusic... but I don't think it's the same as when Roger Linn was involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Keni said: ...and pricing? Well, the still make (arguably) one of the best product lines in the synth market (to me) and I still dream of owning a Model 15 and a Memorymoog before I die! For a few reasons, I tend to see Arturia as a more fitting successor to Moog than whoever is running Moog Music atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keni Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Jim Roseberry said: I just saw the Email. When the founder passes (or even just moves on), a company is often never quite the same. The original passion and vision just aren't there. I hope this doesn't end up like Creative/Emu. I had an original MiniMoog Model D (bought it from a HS band-mate for $50). It was badly in need of service... and I let it sit and collect dust (for years). Finally sold it to a friend. Always loved that raw "electric" sound. It's almost like you can hear the electricity running thru it. Forward to a couple years ago. I saved and liquidated a lot of gear to grab a MoogOne. I was hoping it would be my one-and-done "be all" analog synth. On paper, it should have been exactly that. In reality, it had serious intonation issues... that go far beyond analog drift. The reissue Model D (MiniMoog) and Matriarch don't suffer from this issue... neither do the OB-X8 or Prophet 10 (or any other modern analog). Gave up on the idea of having a polyphonic Moog. Decided to get rid of several things and just grab the reissue Model D. It's uber simple... but it has THAT sound. I can leave the Model D on for days... and intonation is tighter than the One. Sad... but not surprising. Akai is still releasing new (somewhat innovative) products under InMusic... but I don't think it's the same as when Roger Linn was involved. Yeah... I hear ya'! Old world synths especially the early polyphonics often had drift problems. I still own a piece of that. A few remaining modules of Oberheim SEM modules & kybd. Talk about drift. Using an 8 voice version back in the 80’s involved turning it on a night or day early of intended use to allow the drift to settle... I didn’t get to work with a moogone but I did a memorymoog and had no trouble. They still have the thickest sound of any analog synth I’ve worked with. I miss my minimoog big time. These days mostly replaced by arturia's minimoog and cherry audio's memorymode... (also cherry's arp2600 and OB8vouce but that’s another matter) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Gswitz said: Now that’s quite a pic! What am I actually looking at? It looks like hardware. An Arp2600 and a number of maybe eurorack modules? But the arp looks on-screen but there appear to be wires running from hardware in the foreground straight into the "screen" as if it’s hardware? No matter, looks cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 35 minutes ago, Keni said: Now that’s quite a pic! What am I actually looking at? It looks like hardware. An Arp2600 and a number of maybe eurorack modules? But the arp looks on-screen but there appear to be wires running from hardware in the foreground straight into the "screen" as if it’s hardware? No matter, looks cool! Funny how pics of real hardware aren't recognized anymore! 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, craigb said: Funny how pics of real hardware aren't recognized anymore! 🤣 The arp doesn’t appear to be deep enough to be a piece of hardware? Looking at left of screen it appears less than an inch deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 It is not deep but it is hardware. Really fun stuff! There are like 10 distinct units in the picture. I can get all the names if you like. They screw in with tiny screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted June 17, 2023 Author Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Gswitz said: It is not deep but it is hardware. Really fun stuff! There are like 10 distinct units in the picture. I can get all the names if you like. They screw in with tiny screws. Wow! Very cool! Who makes the arp? I would love to know more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Behr2600BMBun2--behringer-2600-blue-limited-edition-analog-semi-modular-synthesizer-rack-bundle . This is the blue thing. There are a bunch of other little things. I'm going over tomorrow, I think. I'll try to get names. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keni Posted June 19, 2023 Author Share Posted June 19, 2023 13 hours ago, Gswitz said: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Behr2600BMBun2--behringer-2600-blue-limited-edition-analog-semi-modular-synthesizer-rack-bundle . This is the blue thing. There are a bunch of other little things. I'm going over tomorrow, I think. I'll try to get names. Cool! Now I'm understanding. I've seen the Berringer 2600 but didn't know it was rack mountable size. and I see that the depth was hidden in the view... Looks like a very fun playground. I'm sure you have lots of fun with it. I miss my 2600 a lot. These days I mostly use Cherry Audio's 2600 vsti as it's the closest I can get... It's a great piece of sodtware, but I miss the hands on feel of playing with it. I spent countless dreamy hours creating.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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