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3 hours ago, Misha said:

But what you said here, I can not agree with:

"Guitars and other real instruments are still cool, but electronic music seems to be the dominant market force now for computer based music."

I'm not saying that is my opinion of how things should be. IMHO, it just is what it is, as far as the commercial market is concerned with at the moment.

I grew up in a musical family where everybody played a real instrument, my father was a professional musician, and I studied music in school for years and learned how to read music. I like and respect all styles of music, especially the traditional ones.

I am just troubled whenever I hear comments from traditional musicians who protest the inclusion of "XYZ" features for so-called "beat makers"  into their DAW of choice, rather than some "ABC" feature that they would prefer. I'm not calling you out here, I've just heard this frequently in other threads and forums.

So please don't take my comment out of context. I was only making an observation about the music making world of today, not passing any value judgement. The tools should be agnostic to style or genre, but offer accessibility for all. Computers are making creative musical efforts more productive than the pencil and staff paper I began with. I have been a Cakewalk user for over 20 years, so I would like to see it become relevant to an even larger group of up and coming music creators. That will ensue that it will remain available for me to use, now and into the future!  I'm just afraid that if it holds onto the past, it will become irrelevant at some point.

Musically, I started out with the trumpet, and Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass were my "pop" heroes of the day (six Grammy awards, 15 gold albums and 14 platinum) .  In 1966, they even outsold the Beatles.

But by the end of the 60's Herb disbanded the original Tijuana Brass. And we have seen continuous changes in what musical styles the crowd seeks in the five decades since.

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abacab, I do not believe I take your comments  out of the context. My perspective is just a bit different from yours. I simply do not want an amazing DAW  to become  next fruity loop, just because it is hip at the moment. 

Again, I am all in for a sampler, especially the one which can accommodate people making  all kinds of music, not based on only particular features for "certain" styles  that is considered by some to be a market driver :)  

For me a good sampler should have GM2 / program change function.  Rompler, freedom of importing my own samples or SF2 / SFZ libraries/ WAV etc.,  16 channel internal mixer  and a few other things.  Actually, I think it would be very cool if Cakewalk would one day roll out a Sampler+Synth in one package that would replace TTS1 that is still used by many and which is due for update as it is 15+ years old.

P.S. I am not going to throw names and dates here, I do not believe it will help the topic,   I am somewhat familiar with electronic music .

I just hope we are still talking about the sampler here.... :)

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3 minutes ago, Misha said:

abacab, I do not believe I take your comments  out of the context. My perspective is just a bit different from yours. I simply do not want an amazing DAW  to become  next fruity loop, just because it is hip at the moment. 

Again, I am all in for a sampler, especially the one which can accommodate people making  all kinds of music, not based on only particular features for "certain" styles  that is considered by some to be a market driver :)  

For me a good sampler should have GM2 / program change function.  Rompler, freedom of importing my own samples or SF2 / SFZ libraries/ WAV etc.,  16 channel internal mixer  and a few other things.  Actually, I think it would be very cool if Cakewalk would one day roll out a Sampler+Synth in one package that would replace TTS1 that is still used by many and which is due for update as it is 15+ years old.

P.S. I am not going to throw names and dates here, I do not believe it will help the topic,   I am somewhat familiar with electronic music .

I just hope we are still talking about the sampler here.... :)

What you want can be easily bought from a 3rd party.

What we are talking about here is sampler WORKFLOW being integrated into the DAW, not just the best sampler for general use. Please stay on topic.

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20 hours ago, Misha said:

CosmicDolphin, can you please explain what you mean by:

"need something fast and deeply integrated" ... How is Kontakt or Halion VST's are less integrated or "not fast".  Sorry if I sound silly, I am a learner and always hungry for new info.

 

What @abacab said !

Other platforms are much faster in terms of workflow for producers of Hip Hop & EDM etc because they have integrated samplers that just " work " right out the gate for what they need.

 I won't repeat myself..here is a link to my previous request which pre-dates this thread https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/1148-seamless-deeply-intergrated-sampler/&tab=comments#comment-8767

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A sampler built-into CbB would be nice to have.

Loops and samples are a large part of BandLab Technologues, just look at the BandLab Assistant tabs.  BandLab is able to see what material they provide gets used, what don't get used and how the material is used in their online DAW and their apps.

Everyone is commenting on Cakewalk by BandLab as though it is a standalone product because it presently is.  But, if you look at the new features that have been added they are to help integrate CbB into the BandLab Technologies universe.  I suspect Cakewalk by BandLab will add features important to the BandLab Technologies universe and as much as they are into loops a sampler makes sense.

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