Terry Kelley

I married a hot barber (mic drop.)

Me too but after a year I chose to make my move. Someday they might tell us something different but if they said nothing, they still have a product available via subscription. We will see someday ... maybe.

I will rough mix in headphones but final mix at around 85db at 4ft from the monitors. I find it still sounds good a lower volumes but not always the opposite. I do like the suggestion to level balance in mono with no effects and realized I somewhat do that now but not specifically. I want to try that out. But I don't end with a headphone mix. It always sounds wrong on speakers be it home or car. And because of my room size I have to be very aware of the bass level and check it on other speakers. Standing waves are tricky. One last thing I do is when I think the mix is finished is to turn off all effects and start over with just them while leaving the levels alone. I find I often use less effect levels than when I started. What I call the Harrison Mixbus effect.

Don’t get me wrong. I too am disappointed with BL’s subscription only pricing and being tethered to their servers to work, but I can’t change it. It’s been made clear here on the forum that CbB will be disabled at some point. We weren’t promised free forever and few of us thought it would remain free. And nowhere has any of our bitching and moaning changed any of that. And lord knows I’ve done plenty of that here. Frankly, I am here only to see if they change those policies but I have already switched to another DAW that serves my needs as well as Cakewalk/Sonar. I could come back if it becomes something I want again. I guess I should reword that. I am here to see them finally confirm it will not be available outside of a subscription.

At my age they’d have to pay me.

I see no scenario where trying to bully or insult BL into submission is going to work. Sonar is here. If it doesn’t meet your needs there are alternatives.

Then I think you know where you stand. Ask Bandlab

Because it’s Bandlab’s finance, marketing/sales departments are making the decisions. If I was a developer I’d ignore the questions too. I’ve been through this in my previous life on a nearby planet.

It would be cool if we had actually moved forward but alas ...

Stop BS'ing us Glenn. That's Waldo. I can tell.

And we begin year two.

Hi Misha, I think my response is accurate based on your observation of the change on the website albeit rather generic. But based on your comment, the question would be best directed to Bandlab directly and not through the developers here. But hey, maybe one will respond. As for an opinion, I seriously doubt they will let CbB live on forever but I guess they could just "forget" to shut it off and let us continue to use it. Who knows which then loops back to my reply to you.

Nobody has a single clue what is happening and what will happen. Nada. Squat. Zero. The speculation here is based on dreams and wishful thinking. When Bandlab has something to tell us, they will.

I am still betting against it.

What kind of cruel game could he be playing?

I don’t get it. The new Sonar is here and people are using it. Are some people thinking there is something different coming? It’s already released. I guess they could have a bunch of features turned off that they will turn on with some celebrated release. The new Sonar is here! It already is.

Too early for snark. I need more coffee.

As long as I can tell what the control is I don’t care what it looks like. No doubt the new Sonar look is more industrial in my opinion.

I’ve run into this with SoundCloud and others. So I too have a bank account/ card that is only loaded with enough money to pay the current bill and when something auto-renews it fails and I get notified. I can decide from there. A buddy and I only used SoundCloud for having a place to upload the music and listen but have zero illusions that it will get our music out there. Bandlab, Landr, Jango, etc. are no different. At some point we might drop back to the basic free SoundCloud.

I hope you get super powers. Anybody can get better, but super powers …!

78. He had a way with chords. Loved their first four albums. RIP Iron Butterfly.

I don’t recall anyone thinking “free” would last forever. We knew it wouldn’t and when Sonar was announced, many like me said, “well ok, so how much will it cost?” We both know and don’t know now. Bandlab gave us the monthly and yearly subscription pricing but some like me sit here dreaming of a single purchase price that is unlikely to happen … and a year later.

This is where I normally go outside of my mind. Normally.

Oh, I’m almost getting chills.