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Thanks for checking and for reporting your results! I found one CS Synth where two of the three presets had 6 buttons. I had a different CS Instrument that crashed/shut down ST4 when loading the preset. It had 6 buttons once I rebooted ST4! Random, based on the preset, or QA issue, installation issue? All bets are off! ? Yes, I saw there was no way presently to access the wave sets from the ST4 UI, but I had fun with some of the layer controls that are available--esp. pitch/fine tuning as a preset thickening agent!!! I am now no longer inclined to think the 6 buttons is a glitch of some sort. Again, thanks for the feedback.

I'm still on the fence, but I might hold out for Syntronik 2.5 (or 3.0) and 6 Osc layers (or maybe ST 4.5 / ST5.0)! ? Although until the newer versions or updated bundles come along, SYN2GB would provide me with more long-term gratification than the same amount of money spent on groceries. ? Adding Wave Set layers to the new instrument presets for my 22 Syntronik synths has been personally rewarding. SYN2GB is sooooooooooo tempting! BTW, can someone with any of the 11 new instruments who has ST4 do me a favor and let me know (a) how many oscillator layers the presets have, (b) how many are selectable, and (c) which instruments (if any) allow access to more than 2? With the limited presets in CS, I see 6 osc layers with some of the new synths, but only the first 2 are selectable. If a number of the 11 new instruments access 6 osc layers of Wave Sets, I will be a participant in the SYN2GB after I go through my account and pay my monthly bills.

From what I read in the SYN2GB terms, there are some logistical differences if you later want to transfer them. From what I read in "the fine print," with the GB you cannot transfer the freebies and the one you purchase has to remain in your account otherwise the freebies evaporate. As I understand it, if you purchase a software product such as Syntronik 2 MAX, after the requisite holding time, you can buy a transfer credit and transfer the MAX version as a complete product. NOTE: I am not an expert in this subject; just reporting what I read. I will defer to someone if they understand the rules more thoroughly.

Alternative Guess: Syntronik 2 uses a different graphics system (methods, libraries, etc.) than Syntronik 1. I'd suggest a friendly wager, but we might never find out the cause. ? I know, if you're right (and someone admits it!!!!), I'll make a Syntronik 2 Patch named after you and PM it to you. ?

I have had this on all my KV331 synths since I got them. Max MIDI inputs = PC Keyboard + 16. Typically my main usb keyboard is higher than number 16 and therefore is not visible to the synths. But I have a work around in two parts. Part 1: One of my devices is an iConnectMIDI4+ which has its own set of 16 MIDI device ports. It has an on/off button on the front. So if I have it switched off, KV331 synths see my main usb keyboard and I can select it via KV331's Edit > I/O setup menu system. Part 2: Once set up, I leave the configuration alone! This includes software updates!! KV331 asks if I want to reset my config file, I say, "No." I am pretty sure I reported this when I first got KV331 synths, but after getting and trying the standard advice (uninstall/reinstall, etc.), I decided it my workaround met my needs. Obviously, this solution might not meet the needs of other users. (But maybe you have a similar workaround.) @Bulent Biyikoglu Hi. As long as I typed this issue up, I thought I'd add your name in case you get a notification. The workaround I described meets my needs, but if the midi device limit can be fixed, others might benefit. Thanks.

Based on my experience we can still edit "Generation 1" presets (those from Syntronik and Syntronik Deluxe) using the virtual hardware style panel. To get there in Syntronik 2, I usually click the Effects button twice. I can also get there by clicking the Player button twice. Clicking the Edit button tells me, "YOU CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE!!!" (Not those exact words.) But after that happened a few times, I got over it. ? From everything I have seen, we can edit new presets recently created for the old synths (e.g., the 17 instruments in Syntronik and the 17+5 instruments in Syntronik Deluxe [SYN]) with the new Edit Panel. Based on Syntronik 2 Full, I counted Generation 2 presets [SYN2] as follows. If these don't jive with what others have found, please let me know and I will remove/update the tables. G2 = Syntronik 2 presets listed under "Generation." WS = Wave Sets listed in the new Edit Panel Wave Set Browser. NOTE: There are several different categories of Wave Sets: Single Oscillator, Multi Oscillator, Octaves, Sync, PWM, Full Patch. Don't ask me about these. I spent so much time counting and re-counting the number of presets and wave sets and playing with layering the four Osc layers, I didn't explore the different types of wave sets, yet. Section 5.2.5 of the Syntronik 2 Manual says: Personally (based on my interests), I'm spending more time playing with the G2 / SYN2 presets in the new Edit Panel than the older presets.

HUH? I read the whole thread just to get to your new post. It seems that the problem was solved when users changed UWP to MME. With my older gear, UWP causes issues, so I also use MME like others mentioned above. You seem to be calling Cakewalk idiots. I thought it was a Windows issue. ("Windows 10 introduced the Universal Windows Platform (UWP), which provides a common app platform on every device that runs Windows.") So what is "It" that you will be deleting? Windows 10? PS: Good luck pasting your hair back in. ?

Maybe he liked what you did and appreciated your creativity with those musical elements that sound somewhat similar. If it were me, I'd let sleeping dogs sleep and choose to believe he liked it. Thanks for the update.

Are you going to tell us what the data is?

I can relate. The continued massive slide in the value of my retirement funds on Friday says to me, "WAIT!" Of course, other current events tell me, "Go for it as if there won't be a tomorrow." No, but I have noticed over the past few months that some of the files that are supposed to be zip files are dmg files and vice versa.

Honorable mention (from a FZ song): "She's just like a Penguin in *****. BOING!!  (Oh yeah, oh yeah, Awwwwhhh.)" (association with some songs posted a few minutes ago). EDIT: It looks like one of the words in the title might be offensive. Listener discretion is advised!

YUP!!!

OK--Ghost it is. Dare I post Goblin Girl by Frank Zappa? Oh!!!! It changed to "Stand!" I guess my old standby (FZ) is OT now. ?

HEY!!! Some one changed the Time Line a few minutes ago (more or less, plus or minus)!!!!

"Slow down, we post too fast. We've got to make the association last." (sung to the tune of the 59th Street Bridge Song) ? "Posting tunes, that fit the theme. Maybe this will be a meme."

The 2017 version of Nick Gravenites doing Killing Floor is from a California venue. All is good!!!

If I had a turntable that worked, I'd pull out and listen to my Klaus Schulze albums. (I suppose there's even more on the internet.) Definitely a productive and inspiring pioneer of late twentieth electronic music!!!

Having started many musical ideas, I like the idea of sharing the ideas to see what others might do with them. I was thinking the collaborative nature of Bandlab (the web-based platform) and the integration with CbB might be a good place to do this once I get into the groove of uploading ideas there. That being said, a forum section here to alert others to what has been made available, to point others, and look for potential collaborators would seem complement this. Kind of like: "I am available to do ___________________, ___________________, and ___________________. If you want to listen to some of the musical ideas I have done recently for possible collaborations, here's where they can be found: ______________________. Available to take tracks and try to add synthy stuff for other genres, too."

If I could do a double emoji that should get both a "Like" and a "Chuckle." Re: "fix" - The twentieth century literary critic Kenneth Burke gives an example of "fix" as a figure of speech called ablaut wordplay in The Philosophy of Literary Form: BTW, "back in the day" my older brother asked me to pick up a CJ&F album for him if I ever saw it--"the with The Fish Game." Well, I saw it one day, picked up, and gave it a listen. When he came home I showed it to him and he had forgotten he had asked me to pick it up for him. I might still have it, unless it was tossed a few tears ago (actually maybe about a year ago) when a whole bunch of albums had to be tossed from rain damage (albums covered in black mold). https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1504447/country-joe-fish-game F-I-X ===> F-I-S-H ===> F-*-*-* ? PS: When my Dad heard the song (the version on the album!) he recognized the song (they stole that!) from one of his albums--not sure if it was Pete Fountain, or Pee Wee Harris, or someone else who did rags. And sure enough, it was the same song with different words!!! This predates the recent copyright infringement lawsuit frenzy!!!!! WTF FULL CIRCLE IRONY: See the copyright notice from Wibbles' posting of the cover of Nina Simone's version of "Misunderstood." Gee Whiz - I hope this thread doesn't get locked or the posts removed for all the political commentary! ?

oops; that was supposed to be a typo fix, not a reply ? Making the best of it. Here's a mixed gender, mixed race, mixed genre version by Joe Cocker.

But I remember the song very well. It was a favorite of my childhood years (along with "You Don't Own Me" and "When I Grow Up to Be a Man"). ? Looked this one up and just learned there are a wide variety of covers, in addition to the cover done by The Animals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Let_Me_Be_Misunderstood

Yup!! Unfortunately, some of the synth audio is distorted at times, but I found the detailed SYN2 explanations and the history/design of the synths were outstanding, well-worth sticking through the video to get past the distortion. Fortunately, the audio of his talking was totally clear.

Not sure this tour of SYN2 by Erik Norlander has been posted here before. If so, here it is again. Warning: Its over an hour long!