Old Joad Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Brings back memories (torture recall?) of spending hours trying to figure out how someone got the tone they did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Joad Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 I used to love doing this👍🏼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywtelejazz Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I happen to like Boss Pedals . Yet I happen to think using today's modeling and guitar apps a person could replicate and get a lot closer to the actual sounds he was talking about and trying to nail ... Kenny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Just a few more tweaks!!!! 😮 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Joad Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share Posted June 10, 2023 I still love pedals and amps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) I have a Blackstar amp that has a lot of stuff built in. I use a little laptop to control it using the Insider software. It's cool. Sounds great in the studio.. But then I go and do a gig I always end up using my stomp boxes because they are so bullet proof and the Blackstar does not cut it for some reason. I put my pedal board up on a my table I use and that way I can dial in the changes on the fly. It put it where my right hand can reach and smash the on /off buttons. I use the Blacksatr as the Amp right now because my 68 Fender Princeton needs an overhaul. But Every time I've tried to use anything else it always flops on it's face. I think it's the Latency of digital. A Tube amp responds to your pick attack immediately. The formula that works is Humbuckers- Basic stop boxes - Tube Amp- Mike into PA. I'm sure a Kemper would be good but I'm not paid that much. Edited June 10, 2023 by JohnnyV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 13 hours ago, JohnnyV said: The formula that works is Humbuckers- Basic stop boxes - Tube Amp- Mike into PA. I'm sure a Kemper would be good but I'm not paid that much. There's always the Ironheart SLS with its 300W of poweramp and a tube pre stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said: There's always the Ironheart SLS with its 300W of power amp and a tube pre stage. I am sort of a 20 watt guy. And 20 Lbs. The whole idea behind this modelling stuff is to do away with a guitar amp. I think it sort of works better for people who use a lot of distortion and effects. The tones that always miss the mark are the Tube Overdrive as used in the Blues. Basically any older Fender tube Amp cranked to 11. It's not a distorted overdrive it's just fat and smooth. Smaller amps work the best as that lowers the stage level . Funny you mentioned Laney because I traded my Laney 100 watt head for my G&L Tribute Astat. It was from 1994 all tube. Made a great Bass amp too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, JohnnyV said: I am sort of a 20 watt guy. And 20 Lbs. The whole idea behind this modelling stuff is to do away with a guitar amp. I think it sort of works better for people who use a lot of distortion and effects. The tones that always miss the mark are the Tube Overdrive as used in the Blues. Basically any older Fender tube Amp cranked to 11. It's not a distorted overdrive it's just fat and smooth. Smaller amps work the best as that lowers the stage level . Funny you mentioned Laney because I traded my Laney 100 watt head for my G&L Tribute Astat. It was from 1994 all tube. Made a great Bass amp too. The Ironheart SLS is only slightly larger than the 4 button footswitch it comes with, which is the same one that comes with the full size Ironheart, as it's the same circuitry: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Just now, Bruno de Souza Lino said: The Ironheart SLS is only slightly larger than the 4 button footswitch it comes with, which is the same one that comes with the full size Ironheart, as it's the same circuitry: OK got it, when I googled it, the pictures looked like items that were sort of like PA power amps and would weigh 80lbs. SO can you run that without a speaker cab, like in the studio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JohnnyV said: OK got it, when I googled it, the pictures looked like items that were sort of like PA power amps and would weigh 80lbs. SO can you run that without a speaker cab, like in the studio? Yes. You can also use it with full range speakers thanks to the TRS/Speakon connector. Edited June 10, 2023 by Bruno de Souza Lino 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 There's also the Ironheart studio. 15W all tube. https://www.laney.co.uk/amps/guitar/ironheart/irt-studio They go for about $950 new by I have seen them on eBay and Reverb for < $600. There's also the Ironheart loudpedal. $300 https://www.laney.co.uk/amps/guitar/ironheart/irf-loudpedal 60W in a large stomp box pedal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Another alternative which sadly is no longer available would be the ZT Lunchbox, which was a 200W amp into a very small package. It even had an extension cab the same size as it: Heck, even Billy Gibbons used a few of them at some point, as shown by this 8K picture of the event: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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