bats brew

john, i like hard panning, if the parts are either dead on, or completely sympatico. but yea, sometimes panning inwards makes more sense. or, taking a stereo track, and slightly panning it out of center as well. you weight one side or the other with it. works great.

hi Nigel! thanks for listening, i know from listening to your stuff, you are a stickler for both sounds and arrangements, this was my attempt at trying to nail both, plus it was an inspired performance on my part, i was really feeling it! i used my good ole usacg strat for this one:

yea, always go to the source!

stereo speakers were never designed as a 'reference monitor'. the whole point of mastering your songs, is to get them to translate over the majority of systems. if you are starting out referencing using speakers that were designed to tweak your sound to begin with, then you are chasing your tail. there's nothing wrong with listening to your mix thru stereo speakers, but it will not tell you what you need to know. you will realize this fully, the next time you play your songs that were deteremined thru home stereo speakers, on someone else's home stereo speakers by a different manufacturer. been there, done that.

hi mark! thank you for listening to this one in particular, it's an important piece for me. yea, lots going on, but i tried to mix it more like a soundtrack.. so things come and go into focus, without being too obvious. tho i work in studio one now, once upon a time, i was a pure SONAR user... made it up to version 6, and held onto that well into the x1 period... i was building a DAW right when sonar went T!TS up~!~ what timing.... without any other options at the time, i turned to studio one, just because it seemed the closest in my work style to sonar. so, pretty much every move i learned, about mixing in the box, came from this forum, and from SONAR as a DAW... and i still feel like a member here, so i post here, in hopes that anyone who is into mixing (everybody here) might learn something, or ask something, or enjoy something. this one's no different, and the fact that you can hear the grounding of the parts, in spite of business in places, is one of the things i learned here at this forum, about panning, verb, depth, and height, and i'm glad you did hear those things, they were the hardest things to attain in this mix.

thank you eric! hey wookiee, this was a real cool experience tracking this one... using a new effects device, is always fun, especially if you find something cool you were not looking for!

thanks so much john, i'm glad you enjoy my stuff. i'm sure i've stolen more than half my ideas from bits and pieces of stuff i've heard over my entire life... sit com theme songs, dittys in the elevator, stuff i'm more familiar with, i can avoid (i'm not going to write another stairway to heaven!) LOL the Wah pedal, was my very first effects unit. i used to play along with all of 'electric ladyland' and tried to copy every hendrix wah riff i could.... so yea, wah's my thing, but i'm keen to not over use it. the ending, used a lovely little plugin that i just dig completely, it's the Valhalla Super Massive. great free plug. all of valhalla's stuff is really good.

hi david!! i grew up in NOLA as a kid, but have lived in slc for 22 years now. rush, would def be an influence in the long run, but locked in with covid was the influence on this one! heheh

THANKS JACK! appreciate it wishing peace for Ukraine.

nice tight arrangement... great performances, dig the vox. i like how the vibe is maintained thru the entire piece the lowest low end seems to be too light for this mix, if the mix is too hot, does utoob turn it down/compress it? it's hard to tell with streaming services, to make any real suggestions about mix or mastering...

i like the feel of the bass/drums treatment..with the parallel, you might could bring both up just a bit, because they are so well controlled. the quadra parts, almost at time, have a mellotron kind of vibe, in that the note itself seems to barely waiver...? is that my mind playing trick on me? they sound good.

nice and funky! dig the guitar fills... drums are smooth and well tamed. this would totally work with a vocal treatment, without changing a thing instrumentally, you'd have to find a good jazz style singer and just cut em loose on it, if you wanted to discover another version. i like kurt s's suggestion. that would lift it one more level.

nice tight recording! the snare sound, is pretty typical of this genre, i see no issues with it at all. i think the band is too tight, to be referred to as a punk band, i'd classify this as pop rock with punk tude. heheh

'neon blues' https://batsbrew.bandcamp.com/track/neon-blues

i continue working on it, and update the uploaded file with every betterment. i do listen to others stuff, and i respond when i have something to add or suggest.

thanks mark. glad you dig the tune

and thus it became even heavier on the page...

i'd just get this instead: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SansAmpPSA2--tech-21-sansamp-psa-2.0-programmable-instrument-pre-amp-pedal?mrkgadid=1000000&mrkgcl=28&mrkgen=gpla&mrkgbflag=0&mrkgcat=guitars&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=92700046938601600&lid=92700046938601600&ds_s_kwgid=58700005283398317&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007215323&dsproductgroupid=369400827347&product_id=SansAmpPSA2&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&adpos=largenumber&locationid=9029766&creative=332063179851&targetid=aud-377243944773:pla-369400827347&campaignid=1708733954&awsearchcpc=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy7_Sg-K-9gIViSitBh2M6AWZEAQYASABEgKCDfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

he used the avid psa-1 plugin.

sansamp has always punched above it's classification. joe can use anything in the world.

IMHO, this is the best version of when the levee breaks:

nope. only as good as someone else listening to exactly the same speakers in a similar room, will hear.

woops, didn't happen. like i said....

Gaateway is the best. http://www.gatewaymastering.com/