Keni

Ok. That’s possibly the reason. I too suffer from resource hogs. I love a few of the Cherry Audio synths and at first, I couldn’t comfortably use them, but they improved enough in a reasonable timespan so that They finally become useable. Ik's Amplitube 5. A great plugin but such a hog it's barely useable even here. I was using 3 as 4 held jo advantages but no my new DAW I can’t get 3 authorized for some reason so I’m using 4... My point is that this is a development issue, not business issue. While every bit as important or more, not quite the focus of this thread, yes? From the days long before digital descended on us, equipment upgrades, technology changes etc have long driven us to buy better/faster forever!

Interesting... I've not had any such problems. Regardless of my distaste for their business decisions and authorizations etc. their plugins seem to work well here. Waveshell? Yeah, I see the versions scan and always wonder why they take longer than almost my whole scan time for each one, but then they become gone... So I'm thinking there might be some other situation that's adding to the mix?

I feel like some info here is crossed? In this thread I was looking to learn about removing some demo versions of plugins I don’t use. This has nothing to do with waves at all. My issue with waves is a different forum topic. But regardless, Thanks for pitching in. I found my solution with the use of the exclude option. The files themselves are small enough not to matter to me as long as I don’t see them in my list...

yup... Some do but sadly not all

I really have not been a waves basher though I'm feeling that way right now. I got @$$%$@@$ in their decision making so I'm not a happy camper and looking at the decisions they've been constantly leaning toward and now followed to a state of ripping off some customers such as myself. I had working software that I paid for. They automatically changed something via their auto update that has now placed me in a position where I can only recover what I already had if I'm willing to shell out more cash to buy a dongle to dedicate to their plugin's need on a port that I don't have to spare is an insult and possibly even something that could pursue legal action which I am not about to do. But I will be very wary of entering into more business with a company that believed they could sell something then decide to re-neg on the deal after the fact. I feel insulted on top of miffed for sure. I don't want to bash them I'd like to praise them for their good work but their' business model as it eveolves seems to be headed worse (for me) not better.... I do like their plugins. It's not a question of that at all. I don't own that many but those I do get used.... A lot of things are changing in the respect of selling things such as software and I get that whether I like the direction of change or not. I will stay with more conventional solutions as much as I can for as Long as I can... I'm old, that shouldn't be too long!

I mostly stayed away because of their' policies. But the Abbey Road Studio 3 plugin was too much to resist. I still rely on it as I’m currently forced to working in cans (apartment living). The combination of the gorgeous sounding room and stunning Quested monitors has me! I see other companies with similar (?) programs of other rooms, but no one else has this! other than that I use the puigchild 660/670 a lot but see alternatives if needed. Everything else I have of theirs I like but could live without.

Ha! That's funny! It so happens that one of the two Waves plugins I'm having my issues with them about is their Puigchild 660/670 which I like a lot. My main need from them though is by far the Abbey Road Studio 3 plugin... It has raised the bar on mixing in headphones for me and while I know there are some other companies including Slate who are offering plugins to do this... None use the Abbey Road Studio 3 Room and Monitors. The million dollar room with $100k Quested Mains is now MY room! I don't want to give that one up!

Thanks Eric... That's what I had done in the past, but thought this time maybe a better way for me. The exclude list perfectly suits the bill for my needs. I use a number of ik plugins. I like them a lot and have had good experiences with the few times I needed to contact them. But I ababdoned the rack stuff due to that methodology. They do the same for amplitube as well. All the amps, cabs, stomps, mics are installed but not unlocked. A bit of a storage waste/hog and still hoping they one day change this approach. I see it as a week point, not a sale incentive as they hope.

Sorry for burning up others' time with my anger issues. I needed to vent among others who might understand....

Yeah, as I suspected.... I would love to simply run the uninstaller but I don't wantit to remove any that I actually use/want... and there doesn't appear to be any way to specify such during an uninstall unless I'm mistaken... ...but I like the exclude list method. That will suffice for sure... Thanks abacab

OK... This has bothered me before but starting off on a new machine I'm hoping I can learn to manage this before it becomes an issue... If I want to remove plugins from my list, do I simply remove the dll's (store for safety) and re-run vst scanner set to re-scan all? <sheesh>.... I hate re-scanning things already working.... I'd be ok except for one slip (so far) with BlueTunes... Somehow when I installed them, it also installed a load (more than twice as many as I own) of demo versions of their other plugins.... That's all I'm really trying to get out of vst library/list... Any info would be appreciated... Thanks...

Interesting... Easy to use, but so far I haven't found any impulses to my interest... The provided link to the IR library is appreciated, but I found it difficult to navigate and ever be certain of which I was listening to.... and none that I did listen to were useful for me... Far too much rrom sound in almost every impulse to allow for my practical use....

Yes, they did re-cant and brought in a more reasonable policy. I agree. I give them credit for the yield, but realize they had to be "hit over the head" to make that happen. I’m referring to the way they handle the edges if this stuff. They clobbered many old users without warning with the way waves central auto-updated on machines that the new version doesn’t work completely and disabled the old versions. Now they’re willing to re-authorize these old versions if we dance through a number of procedures that are difficult, additional cost in both tech and finance. I can’t do it so I’m forced to abandon those plugins on that machine though I paid for them.

That's OK... I would prefer a new "no game" version for a change...

Whew!

I remember when Ultrafunk was around. That was back in the 32bit days. After Cakewalk owned them they were brought up to 64bit but only dx.

I’m glad fir you and I’m sure there are some others, but you must’ve noticed the huge upsurge of information regarding issues with them. I enjoy the plugins, and the prices have always been reasonable, but if any issues arise they seem to be very difficult to deal with.

Excellent... except I always have trouble with such subjective words such as good/bad, weak/strong, hard/soft etc.

Probably longer... Nasty place!

Try talking with them. They are rude, obstinate and cold. I’ve had better relationships with other companies... They had to be "forced" into doing this and the rules/methods of their operation are lacking in humanity.

All I can say is.... Ai, yai ai, yai ai, yai, ai!

Thanks... I was pretty sure NAS is too slow as well. I’m desperately trying to solve the hard drive dilemma of this Mac Trashcan. A single 1TB internal drive dual partitioned for mac/win... Only connections on it are Thunderbolt 2 and USB 3... I currently have 2 SSDs connected via usb3. One dedicated to audio and the other to sample libraries. I originally believed the TB2 pirts at 20GB/s would suffice but I’ve since learned that the 20GB/s only yields about 5GB/s for drive throughput. Extremely disheartening as well as misleading making it only as fast (approx) as the usb3... It's working just fine but a couple of days back i noticed the system doing some chugging on a full project with near 24 tracks of assorted plugins when I unfroze and edited some Superior Drummer tracks... The machine is maxed out from apple with a 12core Xeon and 128GB RAM with dual 37” Apple cinema 4k monitors... Win10 bound... ...almost forgot. Network is 1G

Yeah... It was a valiant Microsoft vs Steinberg war and of course, the "little guy" won!

Hi Gang... A thought just occurred to me and though it's a long shot, I'd like to ask... If I have network attached storage (via ethernet wired) might it be faster than an external usb3 SSD? Apple! What were you thinking??? <sigh>

Well... they mostly remain innocuous to me. They usually seem to reset all the time for me... Well, most of the time...