Keni

Yeah, but as they're aging, I guess financial needs finally superseded certain aspects of product "integrity"?

https://news.stevenslateaudio.com/e3t/Ctc/2L+113/cPZY504/VVty8C338BxYW4Nzm_64sC_whVNrtzX4_Tj61N4Yn9Pf3q3phV1-WJV7CgMhgW26dC171g9kFDW84n91g4rNvSDW75S5hK466HsmW2xGc5X5nGSQ1VP13Wj3CYqQGW4VwdfQ6BN3S4W2_BNq31P8RWtW8y6p0S22WxvhT4q2m517mJbN9dzJG3ldZ_GW1-gGJG3NcRTBW5W0Ss26d_js3W8LtZq453Zlv4W3ZPnt-5bQfFrW6VY0dT6cN3XLW77s4FM3X74qzW2BTbfB5SQlyVW6GGpWm8PlBy2N3f_JptmQ4qPW7gPZHx1cQcfDW59ycZ_5jcLYMW3WNZDh9cJq1nW48yHPq6yfGfzW8KZk326mWyy3W6xv6_C67QbN8V6Hzrn1d_h3KV2Nnzb1hBVgVW8Yxg2N2CD3jS3nrx1 9.99/month for 12 months to own forever....? Where have I seen this before? ?

Whew! I couldn't resist having a Moogerfooger... I love it! That said? What a pain the purchase was! The system is one of the most convoluted and complicated I've yet run into... Many screens and emails before finally finding what I needed. Then their system kept refusing my card? Works fine. I ended up using the same card through paypal so it is NOT the card. Could be their web pages as it was very unclear what was wanted where. Info boxes poorly labelled etc... Finding the download was difficult. Registering at two different moog websites to make everything happen... codes, authorizations in numerous places, then all the added issues of iLok... I'm dying to buy another but I don't think I want to go through that again!

Nicely put. Definitely one option to be hoped for. It would be again a very generous gift from "them"

The arp doesn’t appear to be deep enough to be a piece of hardware? Looking at left of screen it appears less than an inch deep.

Now that’s quite a pic! What am I actually looking at? It looks like hardware. An Arp2600 and a number of maybe eurorack modules? But the arp looks on-screen but there appear to be wires running from hardware in the foreground straight into the "screen" as if it’s hardware? No matter, looks cool!

Maybe some, but more so because it's GREAT!

Yes! I thought this a very reasonable take on the situation. I hope That the new Cakewalk designs something along this approach as I think it is a very fair deal!

Without Hesitation!

Yeah... I hear ya'! Old world synths especially the early polyphonics often had drift problems. I still own a piece of that. A few remaining modules of Oberheim SEM modules & kybd. Talk about drift. Using an 8 voice version back in the 80’s involved turning it on a night or day early of intended use to allow the drift to settle... I didn’t get to work with a moogone but I did a memorymoog and had no trouble. They still have the thickest sound of any analog synth I’ve worked with. I miss my minimoog big time. These days mostly replaced by arturia's minimoog and cherry audio's memorymode... (also cherry's arp2600 and OB8vouce but that’s another matter)

Yes... they are not the same company as when Bob was alive. Would you really expect otherwise? ? ...and pricing? Well, the still make (arguably) one of the best product lines in the synth market (to me) and I still dream of owning a Model 15 and a Memorymoog before I die! oh, I’ve owned a Minimoog but sadly no longer.

I don’t know if this is good or bad but it caught my attention. So I thought to post it here to see what thoughts people might have here... ...a little scary watching all our favorite developers eaten up by conglomerates.

It may seem so to some, but I see it on track. You made many points... we all do or there would be no discussion. Lifetime subscriptions died when the company Cakewalk died... Any concessions that Cakewalk (subsidiary of Bandlab Industries) might decide to grant anyone are purely out of the kindness of their' heart. They have no legal or moral obligations. Social obligations? Maybe. I bought lifetime without blinking to support them as well as acquire for myself and would do so again if such a situation ever arises. Even if the new company offered it now! ? ...yet I don’t even remotely consider any such obligation by these people.

To be fair, I feel you took what I said a bit differently than I intended. I was stating that Cakewalk sold lifetime in good faith. The parent company shut them down. Not a decision of their own. Company gone... all obligations terminated. New day! Someone (Bandlab) bought the remaining properties and began making decisions of what they wish to do with it. Their' decision? Share it with the world for free and pay out of pocket to continue it’s development. Years ago by ... Now, Bandlab has decided to begin marketing new products. Yes they are based in the code they bought and continue the line. Now while it would be a very nice gesture for them to create various deals to thank their' continuing followers, they are under no obligation either legally or morally. Socially? Yes. It will be nice as they have shown themselves (Meng, Noel, Jesse, Morten, and all the other Bakers) to be caring, and giving repeatedly. So I’m guessing they will offer more than reasonable accommodations...

Nice way of looking at it!

Yeah, we just stare out the window! ? Funny... I have Macs and I had logic installed for a bit. It’s still the closest to Cake on a Mac, but Cake is still better for me.

Very true... Because though Logic is very good, if you're on windows, Cakewalk (SONAR/Sonar) is better!

Ah, yes... Thanks for the correction. I forgot they are separate but I knew such feature existed...

Hmmm... I seem to remember that one of the reasons I avoid workspaces is because of their ability to create totally changed mixes within a single project. I can't speak from experience because as I've never used them. I find it just as easy to simply save things under modified names within a single song/project. I'm sure having it already open (?) within an existing project would possibly be faster (change dependent), I've not been troubled by it. So I can see some people wanting it, but for me it's not important at all....

Isn’t that what workspaces was created to do? I don’t use them myself so I’m not very knowledgeable on their abilities and limitations .

Thanks for helping to track this one down. I posted a support ticket with a bug report earlier. I hope that is the current procedure? I forget... Between the bug report and this thread (I know The Bakers always keep an eye here) at least they’ve been made aware of it’s existence. This isn’t a show stopper and with all that’s currently happening and on the horizon, I don’t think this too high a priority. Itchy though it is...

I'm glad that you found the problem on your machine as well. So I know it's not completely me... But it doesn't fix here. I followed your recipe to the letter and the problem remains the same... Not a fix here for some reason... Thanks for sticking with me though... Interesting... I just noticed that if they're all on A type and I click N, only the track clicked on goes to N the other two go to S type! So it seems to be the same type of issue from either the S or A type, ctrl-clicking on the N type causes all tracks other than that clicked on to skip the middle option...

Here's another possibly related oddity. For some reason the emulator is always disabled when a track is added. I made certain that I saved the default with the emulator enabled as it's been bugging me, but when I add a new audio track, the emulator is again disabled and I must enable it... This is all new stuff I have never seen before on other machines.

Maybe I didn't understand your instructions. I started a new project with one audio/one midi track. Added another audio track. Problem still the same. Removed the emulator from the sencond audio track, then added the module back... Problem still the same. Deleted emulator from both tracks and re-added to each. Problem still the same... What did I do differently?

OK... Let me see if I understand. I should add audio tracks and remove the emulator (it's already defaulted in when I add the track, then add the emulator and try that... Going there now. Will post in minutes...