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This might or might not be useful info to you; just thought I'd mention it in light of your comments. If you still have "ancient" *.wrk files, they should open in the current Cakewalk by BandLab (mine do). With SONAR a few years ago, I re-did some of my old midi -> hardware tunes. I tweaked them a little bit, including sending then to softsynths and re-orchestrating them. It should be the same with 2019's Cakewalk. As scook noted, BandLab--the web-based software--and Cakewalk by BandLab are presently two very different things. I for one am very glad SONAR/Cakewalk has been rescued from becoming orphaned / legacy software. I still have 8.5 and X3 on my current PC (Win 10), but have been enjoying updating my personal knowledge base along with reinventing old performance modalities and "ancient" tunes. Below: 1997 WRK File (MIDI) opened in 2019 Cakewalk [image from 3 years ago deleted to reclaim space]

Having started with Cakewalk for MS-DOS, having updated a number of times since then, and having stumbled onto the new and improved Cakewalk by BandLab in June, I am able to use almost all (if not all) of the Cakewalk plug-ins I purchased over the years. I have also been able to use many of the free plug-ins I have acquired. Some 32-bit plug-ins have been problematic. I had 8.5 and X3 installed on my current computer; so when I installed the current version of Cakewalk, those plug-ins successfully migrated properly. If you have the original media (CDs/DVDs/Downloads) that include 64-bit versions, from what I have seen others report, you can still install those. Fortunately for me, I still have hard copies of my serial numbers--including ones from before the older ones were migrated to the newer Cakewalk Command Center. Perhaps you printed out yours and still have them somewhere in case you no longer remember your password for the Command Center? Hope you can figure out a way to get your old plug-ins installed. I have really been impressed by the new Cakewalk software and the support that is available via the internet. Steve Addendum: By the way, one of my favorite plug-ins from ten-twelve years or so ago was the version of z3ta+ that included z3ta+ FX. I was very delighted to find that those (the synth and the FX plug-ins) successfully migrated to the new Cakewalk and were immediately available to me. So far, they have worked for me quite well. Again, hope you can get your old plug-ins working.

Different problem, then. In that case, recording the note data and looking at the midi events won't show anything useful. Thanks for clarifying.

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One source of stuck notes might be the midi data itself--e.g., sustain on with a missing sustain off, note durations that cause the note to hang, etc. If its still a problem and you haven't looked yet, possibly check Views > Event List.

First, congrats on solving this, at least in this case. Second, there is much value in undoing something and redoing it in order to try to trigger a reset/change! I learned this several months ago when trying to problem-solve an issue with the mysterious black box known as Windows Sound. The Windows Sound Troubleshooter could never find the problem, but sometimes just running the troubleshooter MIGHT solve the problem (not always). Flicking a switch turned out to be a much more consistent fix for the problem I was having--no need to power down, reboot anything, etc. Third, if there's an easy way to see what usb device is associated with what port, I'd be interested! (Something simpler and quicker than looking at the properties for each port and keeping a personal list of manufacturer ids, device ids, etc.

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Not urgent; just thought it might be handy to have internet and file linking abilities from Note Browser. Thanks. [image from 3 years ago (showing the CbB Notes Browser with an internet resource and a local file) deleted to reclaim space] Reason for withdrawing feature request: In another thread, someone posted links to a couple of third-party note-taking tools that might be more useful than implementing the suggestion above. Also, there are other Cakewalk features, tweaks, improvements, etc. that would be more of a priority.

Update 2: I played around with all sorts of positional settings--floating, tiling, cascading, dragging, docking/undocking via via menus, screensets, lenses, full screen/F11, etc. and got stuck in a mode where the step sequencer was a separate window and any time I went to it, it occupied the entire workspace underneath the control bar. I think because the step sequencer was its own window, I could not dock it anywhere. Eventually, I got it back to the way it was when I first tried your steps, and it always seemed to remember when it was docked or undocked. Maybe someone with more experience than me can replicate the steps. (I learned quite a bit about the extreme flexibility we have in positioning stuff in our Cakewalk workspaces!)

I test drove the step sequencer years ago and have not used it since. Since your list of procedures is straight forward, I gave it a try--in part to refresh my memory about the step sequencer. I tried several things (such as locking the clip and locking the step sequencer. In all cases when I got to step 5, the step sequencer was undocked. Update: I was doing something wrong. On step 2, it did not open docked, so I manually docked it. Sorry, I am not familiar enough with the step sequencer to know how to make it dock on double clicking.

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Very useful to know the subtractive debugging steps you used and how it led to your solution. Congrats on finding that.

After your post, I found MS XML Notepad. I was responding to the "one long string of data!" comment. I would not edit the file directly; for me the XML Editor is just a way to make sense of the file--to see what's there. I would follow scook's excellent advice.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

Early in 2018 I had a similar problem and only found out Cakewalk was alive and well about 6 weeks ago or so. Personally, I feel it would have been nice if BandLab had reached out more directly to those of us who have been long-time Cakewalk/SONAR users (instead of letting us stumble on it).* However, all of the BandLab links I got just now from a Google search mention and lead to Cakewalk by BandLab. So far as I know, it has been that way for the past month or two (at least since I found it). The Google Search for just "Cakewalk" here puts as number 1 the old Cakewalk (circa 2108) and has outdated information. Cakewalk by BandLab was number 2. In the popular press, I have heard all kinds of things about Google's search engine. I am not at all sure how it works, but maybe more people need to search "Cakewalk" and click the Cakewalk by BandLab link so it will raise to number 1. I am not sure if the new owners of Cakewalk can ask Google to change it. Well, they can probably ask (and might already have done so), but I am not sure Google responds to those kinds of requests. From what I have seen in the news, their go-to response is something like--"It's algorithm-based" to avoid the appearance of bias. I can't speak for anyone official; just sharing some of my experiences. Hope you can get the new and improved Cakewalk working; I have been enjoying re-learning it (including z3ta+ pre-2 and Dimension Pro, from previous purchases). Steve *BTW, back in 2018, the only thing I found after the announcement of BandLab's SONAR/Cakewalk acquistion was the web-based BandLab app which was not what I could use for my own personal needs.

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ooops, I did it again. If I can figure out how, I will start a new thread because my question is OT. Hmmmm. On second thought, its not even Cakewalk specific. I'll try PM.

Thanks for doing the comparison and for reporting the results for the Cinematic demo pack.

PS: I can confirm the loops showed up in my Media Browser and seem to drop right into tracks in the new and improved Cakewalk. Per scook's comment: I probably unpacked them (in X3) when I got them and I still have 8.5 and X3 on my PC; so, maybe the unpacked content I have were picked up automatically when I installed Cakewalk by BandLab last month. Perhaps the currently free ones are not keyed into a prior Sonar installation.

At first glance, they seem to overlap with the ones I downloaded from the Cakewalk Command Center, with the exception of the KLI set (for non-free Kontakt users--which might have been there, but I didn't download--not sure). If anyone compares the currently-offered free content with what came from the Cakewalk, I'd be interested. Thanks for raising the question in the first place, thanks for pointing out the current availability, and thanks for anything anyone else might contribute about the Big Fish content.

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