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Not only that, but the C-64 had optional assembler software that could be used to write MIDI stuff (e.g., real time I/O code, on-the-fly data processing, MIDI file manipulation, etc.). It even had vector tables to tap into OS routines. For example, by re-routing the easy to use 60-times-per-second interrupt vector, incoming MIDI data could be very efficiently obtained, stored in a 256 byte circular buffer using zero-page write/read pointers, processed using arrays of pointers to various stages of the data processing routines, and then sent out. Predating Roli and MPE, the C-64 could channelize incoming single-channel midi data and process it, and send it out as repurposed multi-channel data. Not bad considering this was the mid-to-late 1980s using a 64kb computer with a 1 MHz (+/-) processor!!

Original post and updates withdrawn: Evidently my PC has an anomaly. At least one soft synth running within the current version of CbB can generate MIDI note data by playing the mouse in the plug-in's GUI. The note data shows up in the track, in staff view, in the event list, and even in the PRV. Somehow, the plug-in's keyboard functions as a virtual controller. In all probability, others are unlikely be able to duplicate this. In any case, as has been pointed out playing a plug-in's UI is not very efficient.

My MK-249C works quite well in CbB under Windows 10. Sometimes I use the usb midi port, but I also have the 5-pin DIN output routed into a multi port midi interface. I have other keyboards too [including an MK-449C and an MK-461C] that I will connect as needed, but for several years the MK-249C has had a permanent space in front of my PC's keyboard. Not sure if it is USB1.1, though. I will look for the documentation.

Very interesting discussion. Thanks for sharing the link to the podcast.

One possibility which I had when entering notes via a usb/midi keyboard: check to make sure only one midi input is routed to the track.

Not sure if you are aware of this or if it would be helpful to you, but the button sets for the Custom Module get saved and recalled in Workspaces.

I have used step recording modes on hardware (mainly Casio's CZ-5000). Shift+R brings up the floating panel in Cakewalk and works with Staff View and PRV. Not sure I will use it, but it is nice to know about this option. Thanks for asking about it and thanks to scook for linking the online documentation.

From Deface the Music :

There is nothing innate here, it is based on a variety of factors including personal preferences, past experiences, familiarity. For example, this past year I found a software modular synthesizer that resonated with my early experiences using a Moog synthesizer. The software was easy for me to use because I had hands on experiences with the Moog. It has nothing to do with the software being innately intuitive or unintuitive. I understand frustrations when trying to learn or do something new, something unfamiliar. However saying X is innately more intuitive or Y is innately unintuitive is counterproductive to buckling down and tackling a learning curve. Why not just admit that something is new to you, has a different workflow, is unfamiliar to you, etc. and on that basis you are struggling with the learning curve? For example, there is another DAW which some people like. I have tried to use it without success in large part because all of the visual and functional elements are very unfamiliar to me. They are not the same as other DAWs I have used. But, it is not innately unintuitive. If I wanted to re-learn what I already know how to do in other software, I am empowered because I know why I find it difficult to use and can (if I choose) overcome those obstacles.

I'm lucky, too! Even though 1909 severely impacted my ability to use the E-Mu card and software for audio and MIDI, the FW port on the card allows me to use an FW1884! (Not as good as the E-Mu, but its what I have as a backup.)

Re: updating to 1909 - be careful if you have a sound card that has legacy drivers. 1909 killed my ability to use my E-Mu ASIO/Audio (and PatchMix software) that worked quite well under Windows 10 before. I wish I could go back, but I can't.

Also, have you tested the midi out from the piano with a third party program (such as midi-ox) to make sure the data is being sent out properly? Assuming note data and CCs are coming from the piano, is it possible you have it set up as a control surface that prevents note data and CCs from getting to the soft synth?

They do not do the same thing. To me they serve very different purposes, though both do have save and recall functionality. There are many threads/posts that address the differences. If someone else doesn't post links to those threads/posts, I'll see if I can compile a list.

No need to condescend. I disagree with your reading of the post you cited. I use "hmmm" in many cases as a sign that I am thinking about what someone said. I don't think I have ever used it as a sign of ridicule, condescension, condemnation, etc. such as you have in this case. To me his comments do not seem to reflect such a tone that you attribute to it. Contrast the use of "hmmm" with the following: Is "hmmmm" intentionally insulting to you? That being said, I think your point that CbB should halt installation and issue a warning instead of installing the update might be valid if what you say is true. If you read the forum, you will see that there were issues and feedback given regarding the Windows Component that is part of The Edge. Changes were made. Maybe other changes are needed if the developers want to make CbB work under Windows 7. I don't know. Do you want an installer for an older version of Bandlab or Cakewalk? If the latter, perhaps there are still some links for rollback versions a "rollback installer" in the forum.

Footnote: About a month ago there was a Humble Bundle that included (I think it was approx. 20 USD) included updated, non-SONAR Editions of these three AAS products plus other products all of which are not limited to SONAR/CbB.

With new activity in this thread, I decided to update latency mon (from 6.71 home to 7.00 home). Today, LatencyMon was squarely in the red from the start unlike previously plus I have the wdf01000.sys issue. It could be coincidence, but after some Windows Updates over the past month or two I have noticed System interrupts using increasingly more of my CPU. I have needed to adjust settings and pay closer attention to CPU load to avoid driving the CPU above the level that interferes with audio (pops, crackles, distortion, etc.) I haven't yet gotten to explore what is causing the increased System interrupts load. Prior to today: "Your system appears to be suitable for handling real-time audio and other tasks without dropouts. LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:15:00 (h:mm:ss) on all processors." Today: "Your system seems to be having difficulty handling real-time audio and other tasks. You may experience drop outs, clicks or pops due to buffer underruns. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates. LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:16:02 (h:mm:ss) on all processors."

I know we can leave real gear to heirs; does anyone know if these virtual gear companies also disallow transfers to heirs?

Its been a while since I tested storing meter preferences in Workspaces. I do remember a discussion about it that I participated in. I do recall that preferred meter scales are saved somewhere. I will see if I can try to find that thread. ADDENDUM: Still looking here and here. Not sure if either of these threads address your specific issue. Maybe I am misremembering about meter preferences being saved in Workspaces. I will try to find my tests.

That's what I thought based on this: although the references to "were initially started at" and "was started at" made me wonder if just the beginnings of the songs were too fast. ^^^ This. Out of curiosity, would this work for you? Note: "Before" is at 160 BPM; "After" is at 80 BPM. Are you saying that the project includes both MIDI and audio?

In the SONAR series, I went from 3 to 5 to 6 then directly to 8.5. Good thing I don't need this to round out my collection (or for any other reason). Seriously, though, it reminds me of liquidation sales from decades ago--when some liquidator would buy a chain's entire inventory and then go from place to place ["5 Days Only - GIGANTIC Liquidation Sale"]** without any idea of the value (or lack thereof) of many of the items that had been in mothballs for years before the chain went under. Nowadays its like the people who go garage sale/tag sale shopping and resell items at absurd prices. If I could get $4.99 for each of the ads sliced out of my old music mags like some of these people . . . . **"All Sales Final. No Refunds For Any Reason"

So, you are saying if you take intellectual property that belongs to someone else (and is not designated as free by the property owner) without compensating the developer/owner, it is not stealing, it is infringement and therefore is OK because if the owner cared about getting paid, the owner would make licenses available? Just trying to understand the issue.

One of the features I appreciate about Melda Productions UI is the ability to close/turn off each section as needed. Once I get MB (or non-MB) graphics looking picture pretty, I can just turn off the displays and keep just whatever I need in front of me. I have an older system, so saving CPU power by turning off unneeded animated graphics is a definite benefit of the UI design--even though it has a learning curve that's too steep for me.

@MarianoGF How do you get (1) more than one option and (2) a column for checks? I only had one option and no check column, so I thought it was a tooltip for the button. In fact, when I turned tooltips off, I didn't get it at all regardless of the size of the module. So, if you turn tooltips off do you still get the box with what seems to be options to select? Verified on my PC, too: OK. I figured it out--I was hovering not right-clicking. When I right clicked, I got the same quickly disappearing selection box (even when using Mercury and Tungsten). I was able to make the change, but the box shouldn't time out like that.

Is that what that button is for!!!!!! LOL. I've had it for decades and had no idea what the image on the button was trying to communicate--totally non-intuitive icon.