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That was only 11 days ago. I didn't think the forum had a mandatory visiting/posting requirement. I can respect people who can only visit/post once in a while. Not all people who post live here. ?

Actually, its only a problem if you don't want a screen shot of both monitors. There have been times when I wanted both. If it never included both that would be a worse problem than cropping. Just to be clear in case you misinterpreted, does not mean the PrtScr key is problematic to me. It is child's play to crop a two-screen shot. It would require more steps if someone had to take separate screenshots of each monitor and paste them together.

I also use Alt+PrScr and do cropping (and markup) in MS Paint. In fact it is so automatic, I don't even have to think about it. But reassigning the PrtScr key to use the snipping tool sounds quite handy. I rarely need to take a screen shot of both monitors. Thanks for the tips! UPDATE: Way Cool!!!!!!!!!!!! Snip and Ctrl+V into MS Paint for markup!!! Thanks also to @Sridhar Raghavan for asking!!!

PSP Ultimate for $33? That has to be a mistake (discount on top of a discount). If I didn't have it, I would have hit buy before posting this. EDIT: TIP: You can use an instance of VM in Cakewalk (and I assume other DAWS) with some of the modules from the PSP bundle as a modular effects rack, complete with modular (i.e., cabled) controls--if you like what PSP does and wiring stuff together. Correction: Since Cherry Audio has it for $33, it can't be a JRR mistake. JMO: $27.27 is a deal on top of a deal on top of a deal. (See cclarry's post below.)

Yup. I don't think the problems are the result of anything nefarious or malicious. When I first starting looking at their products, I thought "Musicians First" meant the interests and needs were a top priority. However, I have decided that its more like their skill sets are more as musicians. Not saying musicians can't or don't have other skills. But from what I have seen, I think that musicians tend to have a dedication to music. That might help explain why many of us like what we can do with the products musically, but have issues with some of the non-musical aspects of what they do. Well, at least for me, that kind of thinking helps me not get so annoyed.

Yes, TY. I now have some multis that crash Syntronik 2 even though everything is installed. I suspect that some of the duplicate installations got put into a different place than the previous installations. So its a matter of rearranging my Library Folders/ Sound Contents. It might be easier to just re-install everything instead of trying to move stuff to where it should be. Previously I only had the 11 new synths on my SSD drive, with the older synths on an external HDD. One of the nice things about using Notepad to view the multis, is that InstrumentPath stays in the search buffer.

Thanks, abacab. I was just about to go though my promos and put duplicates/triplicates in to fill up all the slots to see if that would work. I think I saw this earlier but didn't realize Peter was saying we need to choose all 32 promotions before the Multis would be added to My Products. PHEW!!!!! That's a lot of clicking and scrolling and rolling!!!!!! But it did indeed add the SYN2_MAX_Multis my User Area. Thanks for all the tips.

Thanks for the images, Brian. I looked all around the My Products Page several more times in all sorts of places where it might have been hidden. Thanks for the suggestion, Jacques. Product Manager is now up to File 18 of 77, so I might as well let it finish. That way if they suggest using Product Manager, I will have already tried it.

Apology accepted. Thank you.

Apology accepted. Thank you.

Apology accepted. Thank you.

No. That's what I am trying to find. The set of 30 that came with Syntronik 2 Full are in a zip file. I have looked everywhere I can think of for a different zip file that has the full set. Any ideas where they might be? By any chance did they put it in with Syntronik 2 CS? I cannot find them in SE or Full and CS has expired. I am trying to reinstall Syntronik 2 from the Product Manager now. Maybe that will give me the full set of Multis. DONE. Now trying to reinstall all the Syntronik Sounds (that haven't expired yet) using the Product Manager. After that is done (in several hours days) I will find out if it was a mistake to start with CS, then get SE, then Full, and then get into the SYN2GB. ?

Where are people finding the full set of multis? All I can find is the set of 30 that came with Syntronik 2 Full. I hope I don't have to de-authorize CS, SE, and Full, remove all the content, and start all over installing all 33 Instruments one-by-one using the Product Manager. That would also require deleting tons of Syntronik files from my PC and still risk not getting the multis. ?

Re: Butt Kills sign. Yeah. I had a hard time trying to decide if it was a sexual preference slur or not.

Not sure its unethical or a "Bait and Switch" tactic. Not sure they don't care. I tend to think its one of several communication issues. I agree its the best Syntronik 2 deal to date!

This is a known problem. From what I have seen it predates the SYN2GB. I can't remember when I first encountered it. Its a trivial fix: Just download the other one and delete the one that for the other computer if you don't need it.

Yup. As I said wrt my Syntronik 2 Full multis: they had instruments/presets that weren't part of the full version (in other words, they were from the MAX version) and they caused Syntronik 2 to crash. EDIT: That was May 9th. I am sure I had a later post where On May 25th I said that once I installed the 11 new Instruments, I didn't have the crashes. (See below.) I used Notepad with the files to search for InstrumentPath before I got the new ones.

I looked at one or two and from what I saw, they have replacement (maybe supplemental?) sound content files. They are not very big. The largest one I have is for 99 (66,099 KB). Most are smaller than 15,000 KB). The install time for the update files is way quicker than the GB [Great Big!] Sound Content Installation. Just an FYI.

Is Syntronik 2 working? Do you have all 33 Instruments and all the Generation 1 (SYN) and Generation 2 (SYN2) presets installed and working? If so, based on what I have seen CS [a super lite version] will not add anything you don't already have. The CS version of Syntronik 2 has a very small number of presets with a minuscule number of wave sets.

Thanks for the clarification. It sounds like you narrowed down the problem. It might be the Surge Patch you are using. I just tried a handful at random. Some use Mod Wheel Data; some don't. I tried Dan Maurer > Lead > By The Way ... . It responds with what sounds like an overdrive effect. Each patch designer decides what parameter(s) CC 1 (aka Modulation) affects (or not). Found another Surge patch that uses the mod wheel: NoiseGeek > FX > Singing Space Saw. Check the Surge Manual for how to add/route CC1/mod wheel control to a patch where the patch designer hasn't used it (or you want to use it to do something different). I decided to teach myself. The manual has a section under "Sliders and Controls" called "Add Modulation From." Right clicking on sliders also has MIDI Learn. So, I took a brass patch, right clicked on F1 in the Filter EG section and moved my Wheel to assign it to that parameter. If I wanted, I could re-save the patch so it has my tweaks. By default, the Event List shows CC data. You can filter data types, though. If you filtered CCs out from the Event List, one way to see them is to right click in the Event List (beneath the header row). Make sure "Controller" has been checked. If the CCs were not recorded, there could be a number of reasons. Are you using Bandlab Assistant to update? Ever since the In-App "Check for Updates" feature was added, it has been super smooth for me: Menu Bar > Help > Check for Updates. I recommend it! Hang in there. Cakewalk is quite robust; so there's much to learn. I started with the MS-DOS version and am still learning features I have never or rarely used. I generally embrace learning new stuff. If you decide to stick with Cakewalk and you increase your personal knowledge base in byte-size-chunks, much of what seems difficult at first will probably become "second nature." Hope this helps.

That's an oldie!!! Have you searched the forum for "Pentagon?" I can't imagine the issue hasn't been brought up before. https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/search/&q=Pentagon&quick=1

I thought it does. There are two shades of grey that were hard for me to tell apart at first. Confirmed on my PC: SYN2 Instruments previously selected are slightly lighter (like 5-10%) and get skipped over. Maybe its different on different computers? on different browsers?

(1) This is an old thread. (2) It might be confusing because you are reading the results of problem solving over a span of 3 months at a single sitting. (3) Based on (a) your newness to Cakewalk (and possibly MIDI) and (b) the lack of details, it might be better to start a new thread. Also, I know that there are other threads that address mapping and using MIDI data that might be better for you. Also, I highly suspect there are video tutorials that might be better for you. BUT, here goes. I am assuming you understand (1) your MIDI gear (a) hardware and/or (b) soft soft synths, (2) what midi data is and how it is used to communicate, and (3) what CCs are and how to use them, including mapping and routing in general, and that your only issue is how to route MIDI in Cakewalk and how to get CCs from one place to another in Cakewalk. As you presumably know, MIDI is data, not sound. Assuming you have an instrument track (which combines audio and midi and is often used for soft synths) and you have successfully recorded MIDI data which produces sound though a soft synth, to me this sounds like you want to record a layer of MIDI data using the mod wheel so that the soft synth responds to the additional MIDI data as well as what was previously recorded. Is this close? Did you look at the event list to make sure the Wheel data was recorded and if so, was it recorded in the right place? Old school personal preference (different people have different workflows): When I overdub CC data, I usually use a separate MIDI track, mostly because its easier for me to edit or delete if its not what I want. To do the CC overdubbing, I point the midi track to the synth (hardware or software). Since there are newer methods, I will drop out here and let others chime in with other methods. I hope that some of what I guessed at about what you are doing (whether correct or incorrect) helps.

Good question--basically: if you have Syntronik CS and install all 33 of the new packs and then get/install the Multis when they come out, is it the functional equivalent of Syntronik MAX? This has been asked and stated, yes, but you would have limitations as stated in the Official Syntronik 2 Group Buy Rules--e.g., you cannot transfer them to anyone else, you need to keep the one you purchased in your account, and while you can transfer that one, you loose the promos and the transferee only gets the single instrument originally purchased. Its a log thread, but I will see if I can find the post where this was addressed. Here is where cclarry mentions it. Looking for a related post from Peter IK. Here is where the start of some more posts talking about the contents. I guess a follow up question might be: Does Syntronik 2 MAX include all the Generation 1 presets (Syntronik and Syntronik Deluxe) and if so, does the SYN2GB Instruments include those, too? The post from Peter says, YES! Did I miss anything?

JMO: If you are in no rush (considering that you haven't had time to explore CS yet) and might upgrade to a newer Total Studio Max in the next year or two, you could set aside the money for the SYN2GB for the TS MAX Upgrade. But if you think the full set of 33 instruments might inspire you, its the best deal we've seen so far for Syntronik 2. As others pointed out, you don't have to install them all. Some of us got one instrument as a promo from a third-party vendor and another from a magazine promo. Each one installed separately. So you can treat all 33 as a personal monthly reward for a couple of years (if you decide to get them now)! If you go for it, I highly recommend at least choosing all of them as promos within 30 days. That should give you 180 days to try to find some space for the downloads. After that you can install them as needed. Also, Syntronik 2 will pick up your Classic Instrument Presets (Syntronik and Syntronik Deluxe) from the previously installed location. But, you might not want to uninstall the older Syntronik software itself. Some people have said some of the "Generation 1" presets sound different in Syntronik 2.