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Cakewalk online documentation is somewhat broken


OPunWide

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It seems the online documentation for Cakewalk is now in the "https://legacy.cakewalk.com/Documentation" area.

Perhaps because of that, the formatting is screwed up. Images are missing, which makes parts of the manual useless.  As an example, the page on Mix Recall, https://legacy.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Mixing.48.html

The problem may be that the images are coming from an http server, but the document is coming from https.  At least that's what the Chrome Browser's Inspector implies.

I noticed this a while ago, but didn't look into it, hoping someone would fix it. No such luck.

Is all the Cakewalk stuff going to just get abandoned and left to slowly rot, or was it just that nobody noticed how broken the help is? There's also the chance I'm doing something wrong.

I've always had trouble finding things in the Cakewalk docs because I don't know exactly what to search for, so I rely on Google to find answers. The downside of that is that 75% of the answers it finds are from old Sonar and Cakewalk version.
 

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Since the release of 2022.06 there has been an option to use local help in conjunction/addition to the standard <Help><Documentation> menu item in the program.

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Local help is a preference function here:image.thumb.png.37522bed100fa879e3af2ba4f7ef5e8e.png

The only reason to really go to the legacy help system is if you need to compare/contrast some ancient function with what is current in the latest/last version of the program.
The online help accessed from inside CbB <Help><Documentation> is actually as up to date as possible.

There is also the PDF manual available (which is about 99% up to date) here:

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Personally I prefer to use CTRL-F to search the PDF, seems it's faster to get to the items that I want.

YMMV

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2 hours ago, OPunWide said:

Images are missing, which makes parts of the manual useless.  As an example, the page on Mix Recall, https://legacy.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=Mixing.48.html

The problem may be that the images are coming from an http server, but the document is coming from https.  At least that's what the Chrome Browser's Inspector implies.

 

brave://settings/content/insecureContent

 

settings/privacy > content >  (botom page) > insecureContent

add cakewalk sites to unblock images.

 

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12 hours ago, OutrageProductions said:

Since the release of 2022.06 there has been an option to use local help in conjunction/addition to the standard <Help><Documentation> menu item in the program.

Local help is a preference function here: ...

The only reason to really go to the legacy help system is if you need to compare/contrast some ancient function with what is current in the latest/last version of the program.

There is also the PDF manual available (which is about 99% up to date) here: ...

Personally I prefer to use CTRL-F to search the PDF, seems it's faster to get to the items that I want.

YMMV

Thanks for the detailed response.

I had found all of that before I posted. I get frustrated with the pdf search, but it works.

I was really surprised that the local help was such an old Windows Help format. I didn't know it was even possible to make those any more.

After putting setting to Local Help, I found the file and then added a link to it so I can use it when CWBL isn't open. Then switched back to online help.

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10 hours ago, Patrick Wichrowski said:

brave://settings/content/insecureContent

 

settings/privacy > content >  (botom page) > insecureContent

add cakewalk sites to unblock images.

Thanks, it's what I was looking for as a solution.

I use Chrome, and it's slightly easier, using the "View site information" next to the URL, but had forgotten about that as an option to fix it.

I would of course prefer that they just move the content to a secure server and fix the problem for everyone.

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8 hours ago, OPunWide said:

After putting setting to Local Help, I found the file and then added a link to it so I can use it when CWBL isn't open. Then switched back to online help.

It's in the main Cakewalk folder as Cakewalk.chm. .... was recently updated and every page footer has links to the PDF, online help, online Support, and this forum.

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10 hours ago, Byron Dickens said:

That's the problem with internet searches like that. You're liable to get a lot of outdated and even just plain wrong information.

Yeah, and it will only get worse with another product names Sonar. Marketing people are a mystery to me.

But for me, at least I can find something. The manual if fine if I'm trying to figure out had to do something that I'm already familiar with. Trying to find out the difference between "Save as" and "Save copy as" (which I was going over again yesterday) is somewhat pointless. I'm much more likely to find something useful here, which brings me back to Google to try to find it.

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