charles kasler Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I'm checking out some of CbB's fx chains, no way to audition except load one at a time. I get the message below but in fact the preset seems to be functional. Something's off... any ideas? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 The BT effects came with Sonar. I don’t think they come with Cakewalk by Bandlab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Yes, the only way this would work is if you had a previous version of Sonar which included the BT plugins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Not sure about some of the others but the BT Brickwall limiter totally failed my tests. Even at a moderate setting of -2 db with out being pushed hard the music came through at -0.5 or worse. It was the bottom of the score card of 10 other limiters I tested. Boost 11 actually did very well. I excluded all the BT plug ins a while ago. Im sort of against pre sets of any kind. You never learn anything about how to use the tools and what the settings are for. I guess they can be a starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 Okay thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 hours ago, John Vere said: Not sure about some of the others but the BT Brickwall limiter totally failed my tests. Even at a moderate setting of -2 db with out being pushed hard the music came through at -0.5 or worse. It was the bottom of the score card of 10 other limiters I tested. Boost 11 actually did very well. I excluded all the BT plug ins a while ago. Im sort of against pre sets of any kind. You never learn anything about how to use the tools and what the settings are for. I guess they can be a starting point. I've been using IK's Brickwall Limiter for years and to my ears at least, it does a superb job of limiting without obvious clipping artefacts or other distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Bristol_Jonesey said: I've been using IK's Brickwall Limiter for years and to my ears at least, it does a superb job of limiting without obvious clipping artefacts or other distortion. I used the BT 4 or 5 years but I was wondering why even though I'd set it for -1.0 db Wave lab would show it was -0.3 or even sometimes -0.1. It never went over but it most certainly never stayed close to the setting. So I'd set it at -2.0 db and then I got closer to -1.0. Then I started using the You Lean Loudness meter so I could work in real time and that's when I saw how bad the BT really was. I switched to the Loud Max Brickwall about 2 years ago and if I set it at -1.0 I mostly get -1.0 Odd time I will get -0.8. And believe it or not the Boost11 is very accurate too. I know a lot of Cakewalk users have dismissed Boost11 but it tested clean ( until pushed hard) and it does a very good job of limiting. IK makes good stuff but I like cheap or free! I'm really finding good things from Melda too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Jonesey Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 7 hours ago, John Vere said: I used the BT 4 or 5 years but I was wondering why even though I'd set it for -1.0 db Wave lab would show it was -0.3 or even sometimes -0.1. It never went over but it most certainly never stayed close to the setting. So I'd set it at -2.0 db and then I got closer to -1.0. Then I started using the You Lean Loudness meter so I could work in real time and that's when I saw how bad the BT really was. I switched to the Loud Max Brickwall about 2 years ago and if I set it at -1.0 I mostly get -1.0 Odd time I will get -0.8. And believe it or not the Boost11 is very accurate too. I know a lot of Cakewalk users have dismissed Boost11 but it tested clean ( until pushed hard) and it does a very good job of limiting. IK makes good stuff but I like cheap or free! I'm really finding good things from Melda too. Yes, I got a great deal from IK when they were running one of their promotions and picked up a dozen or so of their "Singles" for a ridiculously low price They form the basis of every mastering chain that I set up. The LP EQ is to die for, as is the Limiter and Bus Compressor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) Yes and that’s great advice for the op @charles kasler Best way to get all the plug ins you want is to keep your eyes on the deals. I have a lot of $100+ plug ins I got for $10+. By paying attention. In the Instrument sub forum is a couple of threads that list freebies and deals. Also KVR has a newsletter. I always subscribe to emails with companies I want stuff from. I’ve ended up with Melodyne Editor for about 30% less from grabbing Essentials on sale a few years ago for $99, Then the next year they let me upgrade to Artist for another $99 and then this year it was yet another $99 to get Editor. that was a total of $300 and it's list price is $499. By the way I see all Melodyne versions are $100 off right now. Edited March 3, 2023 by John Vere 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 Great, I signed up for KVR. Didn't see any newsletter or way to follow Plugin Boutique? I couldn't find the free instruments CbB threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Anyone interested in purchasing DAW related stuff could do a lot worse than regularly reviewing the deals area on this forum 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, scook said: Anyone interested in purchasing DAW related stuff could do a lot worse than regularly reviewing the deals area on this forum Not for our wallets 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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