TheSteven Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 for 2 sale is still broken at least for the Fusion plugins - which are the only one's I'm interested in. I see the same things as Zo. I submitted a support ticket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawajava Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I wouldn’t think the 3 for 2 would apply for items they have on a special discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, lawajava said: I wouldn’t think the 3 for 2 would apply for items they have on a special discount. Maybe not the intent, but that's not what their website says. I'm real big into if a business says I gotta follow their stated rules then they need to as well. Edited November 11, 2022 by TheSteven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawajava Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Yeah, I see your point. I visited their site and I see no mention of the 3 for 2 not applying. Seems like an oversight in which case you all have a fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 22 hours ago, lawajava said: Is it me or the vintage drive just fuk ep the lows ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.r Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Zo said: Is it me or the vintage drive just fuk ep the lows ? In a good or bad way? I'm confused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, chris.r said: In a good or bad way? I'm confused... Bad ... roll off too much ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.r Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Zo said: Bad ... roll off too much ... Maybe for the full mix or some critical stereo bus yes, but I hear nice focus in the center, might do good for like vocals/solo instr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, chris.r said: Maybe for the full mix or some critical stereo bus yes, but I hear nice focus in the center, might do good for like vocals/solo instr. yep usually roll offs give clarity , people tend to forget that ..... i can't test this one , i tested when launch very quikly , but now i cna 't thks to ilok bs .... i asked ssl for a demo extension but parrently they can't .... be sure to compare it to ssl x saturator , from memory we're close .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Zo said: Is it me or the vintage drive just fuk ep the lows ? Judge for yourself... Here's Vintage Drive run through DMF's PluginDoctor Edited November 12, 2022 by TheSteven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheSteven said: Judge for yourself... Here's Vintage Drive run through DMF's PluginDoctor Thks a lot Interesteing can you put the mix knob at 50 %, i really, and nobody talking about this , suspect that in the HW we're in 50 % kinda parallel processing for some moduls (HF , drive) .... The second thing and this is the danger of analyser is that i suspect that this hduge bup is teh sidechain of the internal compressor circuit ...can you also post the dynamic ? EDIT : no need , i managed to test it on my own , thsk a lot again !! Edited November 12, 2022 by Zo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) double post Edited November 12, 2022 by Zo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Calibration is key I might do a video because boy i seen some crazy stuff on yt lol Basically the settings are dynamic highy depend on lvls , understand it that a setting X at -9 is setting Y at -12 ....don't know if m clear ? AT 50 % Mix witch i suspect the HW to be 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 As for the compression , a smooth soft knee witch is exellent fro dynamic conrtol and glue rather that hard knee that is basically all or nothing , soft knew compresses more element in a closer way , giving that glue factor , same here don't know if i'm clear lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) ... be back, doing a listening test with my ears, instead of my eyes... Edited November 13, 2022 by TheSteven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 With these settings Without Auto Gain engaged Vintage Drive gave my mixes a average 3.6db boost. I found the effect of having the plugin in the master buss varied (in a blind test) from not discernable to a mild but pleasant gluing with better definition in drums. Low bass was starting to get a bit wooly which is not surprising with the plugin's settings causing the frequency response below. I didn't test it on a mix with a low sub-bass nor is my system (without subwoofers) capable of hitting those sub frequencies but could see where it might be an issue if your material did. Ending verdict for me... depends on material. On one mix I tried it on it would be a keeper, on the others not worth inserting. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Density is compression , so play with this for the glue factor , the drive depending on it sposition is for me not only an amount of harmonics generated via volume drive but also a color zone , to shape freqiency wise the things. It works’wonder on synth bass and heavy energy stuff for a whole mix the key is to use in conjonction with the violet eq (or another ) and to compensate for any loss.. my setting is preetty linear for master bus bewteen 10 -11 oclok’ drive 1_2 oclok density ...density all the way up males driving unable to generate sat /clipping and distortion... A real gem ... that s why it simportant to take your time .. did several test all plugins chained and it s really great , ceratinly something i can ahciev with other stuff , but only top level stuff (i m talkingizotope ´ uad ´ weiss, ect ). 5 plugins for the price of one .... seems solid ... Edited November 13, 2022 by Zo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) SSL got back to me on the 3 for 2 sale... Quote Thank you for contacting SSL. Unfortunately, the 3 for 2 promotion does not stack with the Fusion plugin sale. You can only utilize one or the other and the site will choose the cheaper of the options as the default. It would be one thing if their web site said that anywhere, but it doesn't. Here's text from their web site regarding the 3 for 2 offer: Quote SSL Plug-in's are often regarded as the best kept secret in audio production. To help spread the word we're offering a 3 for 2 custom plug-in bundle across the entire range. You could add some console style saturation, advanced dynamics processing or any of the console grade plug-ins within the SSL Native range and beyond to create your perfect custom bundle. Cudos to SSL support for getting back to me, must be frustrating having to tell customers that they don't intend to live up to the terms specified on their web site. Any major business would honor such discrepancies. (According to Solid State Logic: Contact Details and Business Profile SSL's revenue is $25 million / at least 126 employees - so yes they are a major business) My shopping cart contained 4 fusion plugins and splashed across the top was the link 'Have you used your 3 for 2 offer?' I emptied most of my shopping cart and may opt to not buy any, I don't like giving my business to companies that don't honor their word. Edited November 13, 2022 by TheSteven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, TheSteven said: SSL got back to me on the 3 for 2 sale... It would be one thing if their web site said that anywhere, but it doesn't. Here's text from their web site regarding the 3 for 2 offer: Cudos to SSL support for getting back to me, must be frustrating having to tell customers that they don't intend to live up to the terms specified on their web site. Any major business would honor such discrepancies. (According to Solid State Logic: Contact Details and Business Profile SSL's revenue is $25 million / at least 126 employees - so yes they are a major business) My shopping cart contained 4 fusion plugins and splashed across the top was the link 'Have you used your 3 for 2 offer?' I emptied most of my shopping cart and may opt to not buy any, I don't like giving my business to companies that don't honor their word. Yeah , they answered the same , i didn't want to even argue about the fact that itwas done in a manner that leds a ll of doors open for legal concern , but who cares about law nowdayz ? I did suggested a bundle offer . Anyway , for me it's audio deluxed then or JRRSHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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