Keni

Looking at the new website I notice (happily) that the pictures all still look like the Cake/Sonar I love.... Honestly? I can't wait! Many other old products appear to be included so it means they will get more development (if they haven't already) and maybe we can look forward to more of them now that "the gates are open" once again. I have near everything Cakewalk ever offered. I think Rapture Pro (or whatever the last version was that combined rapture and Dimension pro) is the only item I missed and would love to see that return and develop! Right now I'm more excited that worried as their comments have been of good vibe. We'll see how it actually rolls out.

I wish as I too bought it, but don't hold your breath. That was a product from a different company and has already long passed. But they might offer "upgrade/crossgrade" prices for those of us who own Sonar? One can dream, yes?

OK... Just finished reading everyone's first responses. I did make a couple of quick replies along the way, but here's my thinking right now. When Gibson dumped us I would gladly have paid for a new version from whoever bought us as I had been paying since the 12Tones days... Instead... Surprise! It's free! So it's been great for years of this advantage. Now to continue it's progress changes are needed and it's going to cost. Oh well, it was nice free, but I'd have to pay someone else as well and there isn't a DAW out there that I prefer to Cakewalk/Sonar. I have an old copy of Studio One and I'm sure I could use it if forced but I'm not comfortable with their interface.... I have others and have had others. I still prefer Cakewalk and I'm thrilled that they're going to continue it's development as Sonar and not transform it into Next! Unless their cost is ridiculous compared to industry value. I will be more than happy to go back to paying for Sonar! ...and my guess is that they might even offer some incentives for existing users to transition? I'm sure many will think this way. I'm quite surprised when I see people speak surprise at a product going from free to paid successfully. It's one of the most tried and true methods I've ever heard of.

Have they specifically said that existing CbB users would lose what they have? They may unlock it so that authorizations are no longer needed. But no more updates...

Actually, many... McAfee was once free. How many use it paid now?

That too... But I'm sitting ok now. With my audio streaming from a TB2 connected SSD and my sample libraries on a USB3.1 SSD I'm seeing good response...

thanks bitflipper... I didn't mention it at first mostly because I forgot that I have it. I don't remember the last time I used it. I did install it on this new DAW just recently, but it took a day or say to come to mind. I guess I should give it a try... I've been so satisfied with the results from Adaptive I simply ran with what I knew works. I've got a few new albums coming term soon so I'll start checking it out on in-house-work daily's in the meantime...

Ha! Funny as I mentioned in an earlier post here, I have Ozone and have been considering using it's maximizer functions as a replacement. I haven’t tried it much yet but I have an upcoming project I may try it with...

Or more so...? I have boost11 as well as concrete, but they are nothing like Adaptive...

Thanks Starship. I'll check these out too. I probably don’t really suffer much with AL, and was only feeling irked at the moment of OP. But always interested in alternatives..

Very True... Not really GAS either though. I really don't want to buy anything right now in this range of dreaming... I was just feeling tired of the little issues that plague me as I carry old things along... I still use 2 32 bit plugins regularly because they still sound great and I can't afford the purchase solution. I make poor seem like a good goal these days... More little issues Oh well. Thanks for your insights and suggestions. I'm guessing that I'll stick with what I have for the time being.

Thanks BF... So far it's the leader of the pack from what I'm seeing. But I've gotta justify the cost as Adaptive is working fine here. I also have Ozone whose maximizer portion is in the right direction though I must admit I'm a bit confused about some syntax and controls...

Sorry to hear, but not surprised... I've really had very little trouble with it but it can be glitchy enabling/disabling at times. Not always. Why? I'm still not sure... Same with trouble closing. I've never been able to 100% reproduce. It's sporadic and may be involving interrelationships with other plugins in the given project? I continue to use it because I like it and have lived with these issues for so long they feel "normal" to me, but every once in a while I think... "wouldn't it be nice..."

Interesting... I'm glad it's working so cleanly for you. I do really like this piece of tech. It's behaved this way on three of my machines as well as a couple of others I used back in time... It often causes glitches when enabled/disabled as well, but after I've finished my tinkering and export my file, all is well. So I continue to use it in all of my mastering. ...but I am getting tired of the little bugs so I thought to explore what else is out there. Right now I'm still using it but toying with the maximizer in Ozone as an alternative? ...and checkout out these cool suggestions others have found.

Thanks... Nice to see so many interesting options...

Thanks... Checking it out too...

Very true... They only get lossless from select services and downloads vs. basic lossy streaming...

Thanks bf! I'll check 'em out...

Yeah... I still use this regularly. I love it. ...but it really needs an update (I know it's not likely). As it is both extremely resource hungry (by itself it send my cpu metering from it's normal heavy load barely visible on meters to half way up sporadically across all cores and threads as soon as Adaptive Limiter is enabled. It is the cause of many crashes (only when opening/closing projects, not during work) If I was looking for a replacement of this What suggestions might you have? I'm not looking for some all-in-one mastering tool. Only a mastering compressor/limiter with some degree of intelligence? Thanks... I'm just getting tired of the baggage it carries.

Not bad... ...or Music Baby?

Baby Music!

Yeah, I laugh at that a lot. I began my career as an engineer long before digital arrived or computers in music in any way for that matter. A main goal of developers back then was to make their' gear as sonicly transparent as possible. Now we pay extra for the "color" they each offer. Paying tribute to those sounds. Probably a passing fashion of the changeover that will dwindle over time, but who knows? I guess now I'll have more time to devote to making videos to add to the thumb drives?

Yeah, me too. As well as long before it (I’m old) I'm old enough to not really care about sales. But for me it's the "art of album creation" which is getting lost in the current paradigm . It’s back to single after single instead. Too short-attention for me. I enjoy an album or a symphony to a song or a movement. Too short. My interest is in connecting the short ones into long ones! 🙏👽🎸🎶

Yeah... I know... ...but it's such a letdown handing a thumb drive compared to a CD or better yet, a vinyl abum! The art is impressive before any device gets near it.... Not so with thumb drives but as fewer people buy dedicated artists work anymore. They simply subscribe to a service allowing them to listen to anything as often as they choose. No piles of media to store (and appreciate)... Oh well... The good with the bad. One small solid state memory device now stores more in inches than the analog world stored in yards

Yeah, I got the email too... Very sad. I'll bet Derek will be disappointed to learn this Funny but true about the name. Will they rename themselves now that they're completely disassociating from CDs? For many of us this is very sad. I hated seeing the reduction of artwork forced from Vinyl to CD and now the new limitation.... Ever try to print anything artistic on black thumb drives? <sigh>... I know it can contain lots of art but unto itself just looks like a thumb drive. I've printed some labels for some as well as ordered with printing but at that minuscule size it does little to appeal to me. I know there are thumb drives that have larger surfaces enabling such but they're very inconvenient for users to plug into many situations... I am very sad to be seeing this change during my lifetime. I love the convenience digital offers, but this is a point of loss to me. It removes the art of Album Design completely!