kitekrazy

It's a crapshoot that on 3 systems any NI update will be flawless.

Sometimes in FL Studio I use FL Keys. It opens right up. I use pianos most of the time only for sketching.

So does the redeem part mean registering with MS and you don't have to install it.

I use this one when I need just a piano instead of scrolling through the ones I have. I bought it years ago when it was 50% off.

I just had to be patient.

Seems like it was removed.

Looks like the update was removed.

Well I was burned when I upgraded Gigastudio 4 and a month later it was useless. These threads create all sorts of conspiracy theories. If they alter the new Sonar to make it less familiar with the current DAW, I'm out.

Isn't is already?

I don't think it was ever freeware. You could use it unauthorized. I've had a Reaper license since it came out.

Outside of that few realize Toontrack can be a money pit.

smaller file size would be on mine..........IK has become bloated.

They wont. So many have dropped Waves that were not sponsored by them, Then again at the turn of the century they did another bad policy that led to people dropping them. The worse that can happen is they are taken over and stuffed shirts will still have faith in the sub model. The problem with sub models is prices also go up.

The strong point is their plugins. Everything else Waves sucks. So far their quality overrides their crap business model. At some point hopefully that ends since there is so much out there with superior licensing.

I still use Soundforge. It seems like the Suite is a good deal since you get the Steinberg SpectraLayers Pro 10. Too bad Waves is on my sheisse liste. I rarely buy from EP.

It's rare to see loops with this kind of licensing these days and probably wouldn't dent my top 20 producers of loops. You won't see these at vendors that specialize in selling loops.

Yep. I buy them if they are interesting but there are also numerous free ones.

Live Suite which includes Max is pricey even the upgrade compared to Reaper. People pay for that stuff instead of taking time to learn it on their own. The rationale is no different when people buy presets of any plugin. 8 versions of Reaper is about equal to Live Max upgrade.

The stuff in Komplete is underrated for those with no orchestra experience.

You have to hook DAW users into that kind of thinking.

So does one have to do 5 independent purchases? Plus you have to use credit card.

Same here. They get a 👇 despite what it says.

I get the impression that archiving them and trying to install later on would not be smooth like Kontakt. They have Originals which are very affordable so I assume that's the direction they are going. When it comes to orchestra libraries one can only invent the wheel so far. With the large amount of VST synths I see no need for sample based players either.

I wasn't interested in it as a pipe organ,

Another major fail for me when I said I would avoid free stuff. After 10 seconds of the demo that ruined it.