Larry Jones

Please don't talk about the staff editor... 😎

I'm guessing that would be one way to undo the "crossed" synths, by replacing the shaker with the organ and the organ with the shaker. Doesn't explain how this could have happened, but might be a workaround.

The "Insert Synth" function mentioned by scook is your friend. Uncheck "Simple Instrument" in the dialog box and Cakewalk will give you an audio track and a MIDI track for Addictive Drums. Drag the loops into the MIDI track on the timeline, and Cakewalk will use the audio track to play them. If you are using loops it's far more flexible to use MIDI loops -- although Addictive Drums can generate audio loops too. For that, read the AD manual.🙃

I have had numerous "poofs!" with the latest version. The whole program just disappears with no warning or error message. This happened when I tried to export a mix or bounce the project down to a single stereo track. Otherwise everything worked as expected and I could work on the project. I just couldn't mix down. After a couple hours of turning off or deleting plugins and exporting the entire project minus one track (at a time), deleting automation, changing buffer settings and stuff, I discovered that one audio track was causing the crashes. This track had been heavily edited - there may have been 40 cuts. At this point I discovered that I also could not bounce this track down to itself to get rid of all the cuts. When I tried to do this the program would crash with no warning or error message. I tried duplicating the track and the new track caused the same problem. Finally I set the output of this track to a new aux track and recorded it there in real time, then archived the offending track. This worked, with the added benefit that my automation on this track was baked into the newly recorded track. Problem solved, no more crashes. I never found out what was wrong with that one evil track. It was just a guitar played through a TH3 amp sim.

When you're copying and pasting the Addictive Drums clip, make sure you are pasting it right on the beginning of a measure. Many of those clips end an eighth or a sixteenth before the visual end of the measure and if you butt them right up to each other your timing will be off. Cakewalk will help you -- set the "snap" value to whole notes before you start pasting.

It's a .wav editor. You can use the free Audacity for the same functions. Or, since you're a Vegas user, maybe you also have Sound Forge. These are all the same type of application. Note you could also use CbB to do this, but the others are more focused on .wav file editing.

Haven't spent much time on the Bandlab site so I didn't know this. The Bandlab experience and the Cakewalk experience are radically different, yet it seems obvious that they would want somehow to link the two. If I could upload multitrack projects to Bandlab and work on them there, and have others collaborate with me there, that would be something! But if you think 10msec of latency is annoying, try overdubbing on the internet. The creation tools offered at Bandlab are so rudimentary that the user base has to be incompatible with CbB, and those who do everything at the Bandlab site are mostly just going to be doing very basic stuff. Maybe they expect some users to share projects on Bandlab only after creating them in CbB or Cubase or ...? So far I'm not seeing the synergy.

I have an LX61+. I got it before Bandlab took over Cakewalk. I downloaded the control surface file from Nektar, and the transport controls and a couple of others worked right away, and still do in CbB. But I never used it much as a control surface, so it wasn't until I saw this thread that I realized there is trouble in paradise. Check it out. A bunch of functions don't work, and some say you don't get much help from Nektar. They do have a step-by-step downloadable PDF with pictures that was pretty helpful to me when I was setting it up. And by the way you have to register your product at their website to get the specific files you need for your DAW and your device. Apparently, however, if you are smarter than I am, you can use "MIDI learn" to get the various pots and faders and buttons to do pretty much whatever you want them to.

I know all of you can't wait to give me the solution to this little puzzle (thanks @Cactus Music), but before you beat down my door, I have to tell you that I figured it out! I don't know the terminology to explain this exactly, but what happened was that I had accidentally zoomed vertically way in on the MIDI rack in question (slip of the mouse on that little zooming slider at the left end of the track), and the MIDI notes were actually there, but not in the portion of the track that I could see (they were below the visible portion). Once I zoomed back out it was all good. And the reason I could see the MIDI notes when I dragged the clip to another track was that the other track was not zoomed in. So I'm back in business, although I cannot explain why CbB gave me only one shot at dragging a clip to another track (see my OP for that riddle).

It is the MIDI track. It has the MIDI icon, which I always thought looked kind of like a DIN jack. But whatever. It's definitely the MIDI track.

On a project that I have been working on off and on for a few months, this suddenly happened today: I have an instance of Session Drummer 3 in this project, inserted as a MIDI track and 12 individual audio tracks. There are no "real" drums in this project. I was getting ready to experiment with the drum track, that is, replace some of the loops with other loops, when I noticed there was no MIDI data showing in the SD MIDI track. The drums play fine, and if I open PRV I can see all the MIDI notes there, and the drums sound when I click on one, but back in the timeline it still looks like an empty track. I dragged a clip from the SD MIDI track into an adjacent track (the audio track for the kick) and then I could see the MIDI data. When I dragged it back to where it belongs, the data went away and it looked like an empty track again (but the drums still play fine). Plus, after dragging the clip back to the MIDI track, not only does it appear blank, but I can't move it a second time. After one move, the Smart Tool won't change into the Move Tool on that clip only, and there is no way to grab the clip and move it. Selecting the Move Tool itself doesn't help. If I close the project and reopen it, the situation is the same: no data appears in the MIDI track, and I can move the track, but only one time. The clips in this track seem to have their original names, things like "120 Shuffle D Hats" or "Record 4." The only thing I can think of that I've done to this track since I first created it -- and I'm not even sure it was this track that I did it to -- is I may have pulled the MIDI track out of the track folder and then put it back in. I know I did this the other day, but I might have done it to a different instrument, I can't remember. Has anyone seen this behavior? Any ideas what I might have done to cause this, or what I can try to fix it?

You're a lucky guy. There is no such store within a hundred miles of my home. But since this thread is about Sweetwater, I'll chime in and say that they've done a good job for me on everything I've bought from them over the years. It is an excellent resource, and seems to be staffed with folks who know and love their industry.

You must have Bandlab Assistant, or you wouldn't have Cakewalk by Bandlab. You can search your computer for it and run it, or if you really can't find it you can download it again from here.

Wait -- It doesn't move automation? Can anyone confirm this? @Noel Borthwick?

No "stupid" questions, and no need to apologize. The rear inputs on the 6i6 are line level, so chances are you'll be plugging something into them that has a volume control. I don't think the 6i6 gives you any other way to control levels. Sorry, I never use them and I don't want to steer you wrong. The Focusrite documentation is here (PDF), and you might benefit from reading this conversation on the old SONAR forum between a couple of SONAR users who both have the 6i6. The Focusrite Mix Control that came with the 1st generation 6i6 is confusing, but it's in there that you will be routing the signal from the back inputs (#3 &4). Good luck! ETA: Might be a good idea to open a new thread with your 6i6 question, since this one is a somewhat different topic.

Got it working! Took me hours to do, but in reality, once I understood what I needed to do, the process only took about 15 minutes. This was using @Craig Anderton's method above. Thanks Craig.

I'm with you on that, Johnny. as I write this, I am working on Craig's method above. I have already started over 5 times trying to get it right. I don't know if I ever will. If I don't by the end of the day, I'll just re-record the whole freaking track.

Glad it worked out for you! But I thought if you selected just the one track, other tracks would not be affected by Audiosnap. Shows what I know...

Audacity. Sony Vegas (a video editor). A tape/record. It's a pretty basic omission in my opinion. A bit like forgetting to put doorhandles on a car. A real shame, because otherwise Cakewalk is the best DAW I've ever used Neither of these are DAWs.

Thanks, Craig. King of the workaround, Master of the alternate method! 🙃

@sjoens see my response to your other post about this. I'm having similar problems, just not as important to me because I don't use the control surface. But I can confirm some of your issues are not yours alone.

Reading about your problems has made me take a closer look at my Impact 61LX+. On mine... Patch buttons turn the Synth Rack on and off. Patch buttons do not stop and start the transport. The "Stop" and "Start" buttons do that. My "Inst" button brings up the same soft synth every time. So far no weird code in the Control Bar. Holding down the button under fader #9 does NOT change the Mute buttons to Solo button. It causes them to do nothing. This is about half the stuff the manual says this controller can do with SONAR. I'm too tired to go through the rest of it right now, and I haven't noticed these issues before because I don't use the LX as a control surface. Now, of course, I want to. 🙃 But I just wanted you to know you're not alone in this. I wonder if there is a new version of the control surface software?

I've been using the LX-61+ for a year and a half. It works out of the box as a MIDI controller, and there is a file you can download from the company for each of several DAWS. I got the ones for SONAR and Studio One. The SONAR one worked with all the DAW controls as near as I could tell, but it was not comfortable for me and I abandoned most of it after a couple of weeks. The S1 compatibility was extremely limited even with their download. I assumed that was because Presonus sells control surfaces, which they want to work better with Studio One than anyone else's control surface. There is much talk of Studio One's customization capabilities, but Cakewalk by Bandlab became available and I went back to what I knew. @sjoens I have the impression from your earlier posts that you did not at first use the Nektar download to set up your LX 88. Is that right?

I'm a novice with Audio Snap. I guess you could drop the older, better vocal into the new project (pre-bounced to a single continuous clip), select just that track in the new project, open Audio Snap, and click the Clip Follows Project Tempo button. That seems (to me) like it should work. Don't give up, Johnny! Hey Craig! I'm having trouble with this song and I'm experimenting with tempo to find a groove, so I need to work on it as a multitrack. In other words, I might play some parts differently if the track is at a different speed. After it's mixed it's too late for that. If you don't mind, could you please define "slip edit" and "slip stretch?" Like, how do I do that? Thanks!

Can you change the Record Timing Master to your USB microphone?