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Ha, thanks for listening t, I had to work on the lead vocal a lot to make it work, its funny that I never used to think about my voice one way or another, never thought of myself as a singer though, I just sing songs I write when they need vocals ha. But now that my voice has changed and I am stuck with allergies the last 5 years I really miss my normal voice! And all this smoke out west...worse than playing in bars ever was. Thanks for letting me know you enjoyed it and for the support.

Hi Mark, Thanks so much for listening and the positive feedback ! I appreciate knowing what you think, and how you compare it to my other posted songs as your favorite. I always love making backing vocals, such fun glad you liked them.

Hi Gary, Just wanted to clarify since you are interested in how I do things, that I do not delete any song project folders along the way from the first to the last final one, until I am sure the final one is really completely done. So I might have 20 versions that I keep 2 copies of on the 2 external drives and only when I am totally done with the final mix and am sure I am satisfied, then I name that one with the song name, date and FINAL in the title. Only then do I delete the other 19 versions. I keep only the most current one on my desktop but do also back that up to the 2 external drives when I close up shop for the day. Like I said I normally only work on one song at a time so its easy for me in that aspect. Reason being, I have found, even with my most recent song, that sometimes I want to go back to and earlier version of the song file to check out a part of the song, in this case, a vocal part from one of the many vocal takes I made, (has also been a hunt for a better lead guitar take )because the one I selected was not fitting in the mix right much later down the road, so I wanted to see if one of the take lanes in an old version had a better tone and it did. Its infrequent that I need to dig back into say version 6 file when I am on say version 14 file but it has happened to me occasionally so I keep the old versions just in case. I probably save more often than most people do, I have no idea, but its just how my work flow has developed and so far so good!

I have noticed infrequently that a clip with an active melodyne fx will not do something that a regular clip will. No experience with arranger, just has happened in other circumstances for me. No problems after rendering the clip.

Hi Gary, I assume you want feedback about this list? -4-5-1.cwp(orange Cakewalk logo folder) 13.5 mb -4-5-1.cwp.~2021-06-07-17-05-24-830(white folder) 13.4 mb -Auto-save Copy of 4-5-1.cwp(orange Cakewalk logo folder) 13.4 mb Would the 1st 2 be the same in terms of MB and the third be added,i.e.would the total size be 26.8 MB or 49.3?Trying to get a sense of what's involved re-the orange Cakewalk logo folder along w/the white folder...up till now,just been focusing on making sure when deleting duplicate saved versions of a project to make sure I'm saving the most recent versions of these three without a real understanding of what each represents....in the context of focusing in on various aspects of individual tracks/overall mix,haven't gotten into these technical "data itself" aspects of using the DAW yet so any explanation/clarification here is greatly appreciated.... i just looked inside the project folder of a song I just finished. It contains an audio folder, the orange logo folder, and the autosave folder. By right clicking on each and looking at properties.....the audio folder says it is 4.64 GB (i sang a lot !) and then I have the orange logo folder and the autosave folder both at 1.31 MB. Then checking the size of the entire project folder it says it is 4.64 GB. So I dont know the answer to your question about your project file. I assume the total of everything included is the total of the auto save, the save and the audio and sometimes you get a melodyne folder in there too. I think the majority of the size of a song project folder would be whats in the audio folder like mine, which your example doesn't have. My projects can get big due to the audio I know that. As for the reference guide pages, is there something specific you want info about? I do know from reading the forum for years and also personally being advised, it is best not to store files in the form of .bun. Bundle files are said to be less reliable than .cwp files, sometimes people post they cant get one to open. Other than that I really don't have any comments on the reference guide pages. Thats all for now

Thanks David! I really enjoyed making this one except for struggling with the lead vocals! I am glad they now sound loveable ha! So much melodyne and rx and fx and trying different things like tons of backing vocal lines ha.

Thanks so much jack!! I appreciate your feedback. I worked very long and hard on the vocals and believe me they needed it!

This is a song about abandonment. When you go through hard times, it is said you find out who your friends are. When you go through lengthy hard times, you may find you don’t have any friends anymore. I am not happy with my voice at all due to allergies etc, and I think I did the best I could with it. If anyone has any suggestions besides singing better ha, I would appreciate feedback. I sang it quite a few times using different mics and this was the “best”. I worked about as long on trying to not hate the lead vocal as I did on the entire song, there are two lead vocal tracks handled differently. I have a few eqs and some ozone and some nectar and some light reverb on a bus on one only. This version is the mix stage, won’t go further in case I get some suggestions. It’s called Walk A Mile, for the saying walk a mile in my shoes. I used some sounds from the free Proclethya, vital, and some AAS bass. I used Rast Drums to make the drum parts, my first time trying it. A little nod to Lee Scratch Perry whose death was announced today for the delay and a bit of the weirdness in it. Thanks for listening and any feedback.

Im looking at the downloaded cake ref guide i have dated 5/21 and on pg 1155 is keyboard shortcuts. It was posted in the forum as available if you don’t have it. I think its the latest but not sure?

Ok on the folder, Yes i right click on the desktop and make a new windows folder then change the folder name to the song name and date. Then asap in my cakewalk song file i save as, put in the location as the folder on my desktop, put song name and date, check the save audio box. From the desktop I copy that folder twice, each to 1 external drive. Then maybe end of night i will save in a new folder again with maybe EVE along with the name and date, then copy to the drives. Then keep only the most current on the desktop. So i have one as my currently working on file and many older ones if needed. I am using a laptop and do aim to conserve space. I am not a pro at all so for me simple works, but everyone is in different situations. My big samples like native instruments and all my non-kontakt extra instruments are on external drives too. You are working hard to understand things and i hope you are!

I store all my completed projects on the 2 external drives i use and keep only the current version of the project on my desktop. When i revise the current project i give it the new name/ date and move the previous version into storage and again only the current version will be in my desktop. Its my hobby so i normally only work on one song at a time so this is simple and easy for my needs. When i am done with the song i keep that one named Final and delete all the saved intermediate versions off the drives.

Hope all goes well for you and your family. A few years back i had to mandatory evacuate due to an az wildfire and it was scary. Taking music gear with me was my top priority. It was stopped before it got into the neighborhood. I grew up on long island so know about hurricanes too. And was 18 miles from the three mile island meltdown. In that case my young kids were first in the car. I got a song out of the fire called RedAlert and got to play with my band at the Rock Against Radiation in Harrisburg. And then theres my tune Hurricane. Wishing you safety and maybe some new songs!

Hi Gary, I don't like saving projects into the Cakewalk Projects location. Here is how I do it. 1. create a new folder with the name of the song and the date on my desktop. 2. when ready, save the cakewalk file by using save as, the location will be the folder I made on the desktop, fill in file name, file type - normal, make sure to check the copy all audio with project as John said. That's it for creating a song file project folder with all the elements in that one folder (audio, melodyne, .cwp, etc.) 3. Once it is created, then I just right click - copy that folder (actually I have 2 I will put it on having lost an important song once), and paste it on the 2 drives. As John said you can also point the save as to the location of the drive and skip my copy-paste step. I normally also save a song many times as I work on it, and with each revision make a new folder with the same name and new date on the desktop, and then copy that file again to the external drives, Just my work habits. I can easily open a song folder from the external drive by clicking on the .cwp in the song folder. From there it opens cakewalk and loads the file and for me everything has always been present except if it is an ancient song and those fx no longer exist in cakewalk. Hope that helps

I put projects on external drives all the time. I save on computer as .cwp and then copy it as a backup to the usb external drive. I use melodyne very much and 3rd party vst fx and instruments and they open fine from the external drive or by being copied back to computer. Bun files are not recommended from what i read on the forum. Also for a big program like Native instruments you can put the sample data on an external drive and keep free space on your computer. Thats what i do.

If I want part of a track, like the intro, to be very different from the rest of the track, first I duplicate the track. Then on the duplicated track I delete all but the part I want to keep different. On the original track, i put a volume envelope to drop it a bit or completely keep it silent depending on what I am going for. Then I do whatever I want to the duplicated track, put a volume envelope to have it begin how I want, and then down to fade it into the original track sound (the down part can be coordinated with the rising of the volume of the original track where they meet so they blend well together). I like doing it this way, its simple and I can do what I want to the duplicate and know the original is as it was, with only having its volume lowered or absent where I want the duplicate to dominate.

Thanks for listening Makke and letting me know that you enjoyed it. Nice words you used to describe the song, I appreciate it !

Sounds good, love the bass and the rhythm of it. I think some horns would be great in there too.

Great to see, enjoyed your playing and that nice guitar ! The song works well.

Nice, I enjoyed the instrumentation and the unexpected changes. Reminds me of Talking Heads with a whole different feel. Mix sounds great over here. Asking myself some of those same questions !

Hi David, thanks for listening and commenting ! Im glad you found it very relaxing, it can be hard to relax sometimes ! Enjoy

Hi Nigel. Thanks for listening and for your feedback, I appreciate both. Enjoy the drifting.........

Thanks for listening Douglas and for your positive feedback! Im encouraged and appreciate it.

Great song with a fun simple message. I enjoyed everything about it, all done well. Mix sounds great. I think you handled the dynamics of the different sections of the song well. Really works and sounds great !

Thanks for listening and letting me know you enjoyed it! I’m encouraged

Thanks so much Mark, it was very challenging! Don’t want to leave anyone hanging ha. Its interesting to me how much melodyne editing i find i need to do with synth parts.. the timing, sometimes pitch, odd squeaky noises and to get a few tracks in line with each other as needed. Very done with this type work for a while but glad i made this better.