Vernon Barnes

I have the Arturia V collection. The other BIG difference between sampling and modeling is with modeling you can start anywhere and edit the sound to anything that synth could produce. With a sample you are limited. Of course the Lab is also more restricted. This of course means you are more dependent on the presets in a sample based system, which makes the load times more annoying. What Syntronic needs is a preview system like NI's NKS, (or better still be NKS compatible) clicking on the sound in the browser plays an example of the preset so you can decide if you want to load it.

Well, I weakend and joined the feeding frenzy, just Syntronic expansions. Blau is nice, sonically different to the usual analog fare as is the Galaxy. I also picked up the V80. Not sure what others I will choose. I still find elements of Syntronic frustrating, the load times, particularly when browsing and the limited editing but it does sound good and being able to select filter type is handy.

In your screenshot you are looking at output channels, not MIDI channels (i.e. the mixer channel in Cakewalk the sound is being sent to). You would change the MIDI channel in the Classic Bass interface in Kontakt at the top of the instrument GIU. You probably need to do some study on routing and MIDI in general to preempt future problems as there are some concepts you are not quite getting, we have all been there! Microprism is a mono timbral instrument (it can only load one sound at a time) so I assume it defaults to receive OMNI (any) MIDI channel. Same with TRK-01

Right! if you examine the MIDI track in the event list you will see the events are on channel 11. I inserted the Classic Bass patch in Komplete Kontrol and its silent as its set to receive on channel one. I changed the channel in the interface to 11 and it works. Presumably the other instruments were set to OMNI to receive on any channel. As Kontakt is multi-timberal the first instrument to be inserted will be on channel 1, the next channel 2 etc. by default. I changed the display options in the track header to All from Custom and found you had not selected an output channel for the track. If I set this to channel one it also works. So two solutions are available. 1 - Change the channel in the track header to 1 OR 2 - Change the receive channel in the instrument to 11.

So what happens if you host the VSTis directly in Cakewalk rather than via Komplete Kontrol?

Dimension Pro. If you have the old Sonar disks you should be able to install Dim Pro. There are other free SFZ players available but as the files were optimised for Dim Pro there may be some differences. The SFZ files map the WAV files. Dim Pro also had .prog files which would be the ones you would use. Do you see these?

VSTi hosted in Komplete Kontrol can use different MIDI channels passed through from the DAW, I recently did this as a workaround for some incompatibleities between Studio One and Arturia B3. Another possible issue could be expression. Is it possible the controller is sending expression or volume information and turning the synths down? Looking at the event list in recorded MIDI would show this. I have had a keyboard output spurious data due to a fault. Also some orchestral libraries use the mod wheel as expression. The mod wheel in its default position will be minimum volume. What happens when you increase the modulation.

Seems its accelerating to the next level. I have still not jumped into the feeding frenzy. No denying there is some very nice stuff on offer for what will be a bargain price but I cant get my enthusiasm up. I demoed MODO bass and drums and as excellent as they are I don't think they would a major addition to my already extensive range of bass and drums sounds. The Hammond is the one but again, while it may be the best, a couple of my other options are not that far behind, particularly when put through IK's Leslie. So I am still thinking going in at the lowest level an getting a few Syntronic expansions.

Not seeing the Kontakt update here. I am currently version 6.3.2(R71)

Brings back some memories I used to love Fudruckers when I was in Dubai, there was a restaurant next to my apartment building. I miss that along with great Lebanese, Chinese and other ethnic restaurants.

Have you checked MIDI channels?

If you really want the Protius sounds Digital Sound Factory have all the sounds in Dimension Pro format. https://www.digitalsoundfactory.com/product/e-mu-proteus-pack/ I think it's a bit expensive for what it is but they have frequent sales. I think there are at lot more sounds here than VX but I would not swear to it.

Is this very old? If I recall correctly it was 32 bit and a real headache. I digging deep but I think JBridge helped but issues remained (around the time of Sonar 8.5) I ended up giving up on it.

What happens when you try Komplete Kontrol in stand alone mode?

I will be curious to see what they will charge for Zenology Pro, I have seen a video which I assume is the pro version and it opens up the possibility to really edit sounds beyond the basics available now.

One thing that has me slightly confused is the Juno 106 from the "legendary" collection is unlocked. I don't think this is the Zenology model expansion, its the full blow VSTi. I installed it and I am liking it a lot but is this part of core or is it a short term "demo" like the 808? For the life of me I can't find anything to clarify the matter. I don't want to get too attached to it if its going to disappear at the end of the month.

I had to close it down and sign in again, and it's worked. I have not auditioned the sounds yet.

I have the core level subscription of Roland Cloud and there were four new sound sets in my Roland Cloud Manager today Last Dance Ambient Pads Ancient Discovery Analog Bass However the cloud manager seems a little flaky today and I have not been able to install them yet. The cloud manager seems to be the weakest part.

It does look intresting. I have not really bothered too much about EZKeys expansions as I invariably use it for putting things together then use the resulting MIDI with other instruments. This one however looks like it may add something to my sonic pallet.

Sounds have a PAK extension so you could use Windows search to find them. But I would have hoped they were automatically sent to the folder selected in Syntronic / Sample Tank See the Sound Content tab in settings on these instruments. It is possible to move the files and point the ST4 / Syntronic at the new folder. Both Sampletank and Syntronic content should be in the same folder. If you cant find them, are you experiencing the Windows 10 security issue discussed at length above.

Thanks, I don't think I would have seen this if not for your post.

I use mouse commands more than keystrokes but even then one is not immune, until I learned my lesson I went to the wrong menu to undo and undid create region effect in Cakewalk, rather than undoing the last operation in Melodyne. Once the region effect is removed any edits in that session are gone, redo will only insert the region effect again, minus any edits.

That did it, thanks!

Just a thought, IK installers are bad for triggering Windows Smart Screen warnings (Product Manager was no exception) I wonder if Smart Screen is somehow interfering with the updates as it thinks they are suspicious.