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@Tez we’ll need more information about this. If its crashing its most likely plugin related. You can try turning on the higher exception handling levels to capture a dump file for the crash. Also can you try the latest early access release that has a lot of improvements to export and bounce?
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[Feature Request] Record audio and Midi into Matrix Cells
Noel Borthwick replied to miasmyr's topic in Feedback Loop
Yes a matrix cell has a full copy of the underlying data stream. While the base data type is similar, clips in tracks are more complex than data in matrix cel’s, hence its not trivial to share data directly across tracks. Editing operations are different etc. -
The reason why we don't do this behind the scenes is because like audio latency, there are cases where it can affect sound so we don't want to second guess the user. Some plugins will render differently and then users will complain that their bounce sounds different. The higher buffer size doesn't play such a big role in memory consumption, but it plays a huge role in speed and CPU load. While it may not be very noticeable in small projects, with 400 or 500 tracks and lots of clips for example, it can be the difference of whether you can export in real-time or not. >>Those folks do not need understand why some buffer setting is faster and other is slower. Shall I rename the field to something esoteric like export acceleration? :) Re memory consumption the main change in 09 is that when you export the entire mix with all tracks it no longer duplicates the project in memory which uses a lot of memory and setup time. In large projects this will make a big difference because it now exports directly from the main project loaded in memory.
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As mentioned before aux tracks and buses are not exactly the same thing. A source category for them is not the solution. There are some further steps to potentially improve this behind the scenes without adding unnecessary and confusing user options. What was fixed was a fundamental issue with source category tracks that was preventing rendering of outputs to aux tracks and sidechains. This was the root problem.
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You should be able to test with any export buffer size now and not get timing problems or lost MIDI. The numbers there are just dividing the range of values to give you some convenient multiples to pick. You should be able to manually enter any in range value for the buffer size if you wish. Note that VST2 plugins and some VST3 plugins do not support intra-buffer automation so if you have plugin envelopes you may notice aliasing at higher buffer sizes.
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A new build has been posted today Sept 4 2021 which addresses a serious issue. We recommend updating to this build to avoid unexpected crashes with realtime bounce. Bugs Fixed: Bouncing or exporting audio in real time could cause a crash or unexpected behavior in some projects due to a race condition.
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A new EA build has been posted that includes fixes for several reported issues and numerous improvements. Please check it out and report back if you encounter any problems. In particular please look at the new export folder source category and the improved handling of aux tracks and sidechains when exporting or soloing tracks. Anyone who had issues with soft synths or tempo changes not rendering properly please check out this build. @Terry Kelley hopefully your problems with the last beta should be resolved. @Promidi @chimkin2 does the folder export and improved sidechain handling cover your requirements? Happy labor day weekend!
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you are running an old version and many such issues have been fixed since then. Update to the latest using this installer Also Win 7 is not supported as stated in the install message. It is not tested anymore by us and you use it at your own risk,
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@Terry Kelley Rolling back without providing any info is not going to help us solve the issue you are running into before we release. Can you provide like to a small project that has this issue? By any chance are you using the export buffer size higher than your audio device buffer size. There is an issue we're investigating there.