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Instead of companies telling us what to pay for a product, how about the reverse for a forum called "Pitch Perfect" or "Pitched Offers" or "Haggling"? Then, let's say you think the value of a product should actually be less than what the developer wants for the product, this is where you pitch your offer to the developer. It could go both ways, where you think the developer is asking way too low for a product, so you pitch to them why they should put more value into their product price. I thought this would be a great place where discussion of what the value of products should actually be. Just thinking outside the box ?

I use a competitor product that I'm happy with and I have never tried Re-Head.

Sorry, this got way off topic. It's just I realized that the OP creates posts for Blue Cat Audio mainly, so I'm thinking, he or she or it may have connections with the original developer... So just practically using this topic to discuss other blue cat products

I really am not jumping on Shaperbox, because there seems to be a large learning curve if you want to create stuff yourself and not use the presets. Plus, it is a unusual demo where you can use it without any interruptions in sound, but the author says you can't save anything and your limited to one Shaperbox per instance. With Plugin Script, I was just hoping to create my own variant of Shaperbox while making it less complicated.

However, JMG Sound Cryostasis, Expanse 3D, Hyperspace, Nanopulse, and Transmutator are awesome products!

No offense, cclarry, but I wouldn't recommend that product myself. Even though it advertises as a shortcut to actually doing it yourself... your better off to do it yourself as this product was in a bundle of products I bought last year on a deal... and I played with it a bit, then tossed it away down the black hole where it will never come alive again!

You can get them at those prices at DontCrack.com without having to prove that you have a crossgrade product! https://store.dontcrack.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=blue+cat+audio&x=0&y=0 The only issue is, PatchWork isn't worth $79 without a proper plugin browser in my opinion, and Plug-in Script needs to let me know if you can create complex LOFs like Shaperbox using the scripting feature of Plug-in Script.

I've demo PatchWork, the only major issue I have with it... is no plugin browser! Instead, it requires you manually find the plugins in the folders for your .dll or .vst3 files... Waves Audio Bundles are hard to search thru because I've got over 10 of them and each has several plugins inside! It's a major pain to find plugins using PatchWork. The owner says once you do load it... just save it as a preset and you'll be able to find it faster later ----->>> and I'm thinking... I've gotta make over a million or so presets???

Yeah... I don't know what users would do that aren't tech savvy... imagine how pissed off they are when they no longer can use their "bought" instruments?

So, Indiginus is a good brand name / company?

issue resolved here:

I just can't believe it happens enough where they have documentation to solve it. It has to be because of Komplete 8 (which is outdated software) maybe?

Issue resolved when i renamed NativeAccess.xml to NativeAccess.xml.bak in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Native Instruments\Service Center and restarted Native Access https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/4402377887121-My-Products-Are-Showing-As-DEMO-in-Native-Access

SO ... BE WARNED!!! DON'T USE NATIVE ACCESS! I will update this when they resolve this issue!

The "DEMO" products I OWN for Komplete 14 Standard, yet .... here's a snapshot of my account:

The bad thing is ... I just bought this AND I can't use it ... Native Access update screwed me out of multiple products I own AND I can't download the product I just bought! I guess that's the "Watchmaker" product that I can't download ... 0.0.0 version?

I've updated AND bought a product today, and I no longer can use Komplete 14 Standard, and several other products I own with Native Instruments! I am just putting this warning out there so you don't run Native Access and screw yourself out of products you own!

I wonder when this deal might come again?

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/nks-partners/sonokinetic/the-watchmaker/ While looking for watch sounds, I found this deal.

Thanks for the correction.

Thanks for the correction

Looks like I'm going to have to be choosy on such libraries to buy as I really want them all. I'll eventually get them all over time.

Some of my older friends watched a lot of westerns when I visited them, I used to play Fistful of Frags (steam PC game), and I've watched Tom Brier and his ragtime videos ^^ even though that isn't Western, it's ragtime. Overall, I'm always searching for me ways to play music. Since I'm not smart enough to create a new genre, I'll start making new music for genres long lost. Western music seems to have faded into the distant background around my area... Time to bring it back ?

Which one do you prefer most? p.s. I'm going to ignore Orange tree based on what PavlovsCat said about customer service issues.

I hope I didn't offend you or anyone else. I really do appreciate advice and my words I thought I looked over twice before hitting submit, but If I did offend anyone, please let me know how I can adjust myself as my social abilities isn't the greatest.