John Vere

I just thought of something . I’m going to send the link to the boys in this band I play with sometimes. The test was missing a lot. It really only tested for 3 things.

This is true but most interfaces have no problem. I use a SM7b and all my interfaces easily are set at a perfect level. It’s about 3 notches up from my Beta 58 but once set it’s no different. But if the pre amp are noisy then it is a problem. There’s plenty of info about interface pre amp S/ N specs. It wouldn’t surprise me that Roland’s interfaces might not have stellar pre amps.

I'm teaching my Grandson to play guitar. I taught lessons seriously for 25 years on and off. A first stumbling block I would run into was figuring out if this was going to be a waist of time because the person had zero musical ability. I started looking into way to determine if this could be tested and found this which is from the Harvard Music Lab. It was an interesting test. Some of the questions were you listen for out of time and out of pitch were real hard to tell. But I scored OK I guess. It actually seems accurate as after all I'm just a hacker! , Have fun https://www.themusiclab.org/quizzes/miq https://www.themusiclab.org/quizzes/miq

I could be wrong, but I think the OP is trying to set up sending to the 4 outputs and just didn't communicate clearly. Otherwise the question seems strange because the interface only has 2 inputs? SO I'll take a shot at explaining the 4 output set up at least other people might learn something. First check all outputs are checked and available in preferences. Then open the track output dialogue and you will see them listed there. Select output 1/2 for track 1 and 2 and then 3/4 for tracks 3 and 4. Then pan tracks 1 and 3 hard left, and tracks 2 and 4 hard right. If you don't see the pan control make sure the dialogue you see marked above as CUSTOM needs to be changed to ALL as below. Yours is set to I/O. In this set up each track will bypass the master bus and go directly to the Hardware outputs. Often used to send to a mixer for live performance or analogue summing. This is OK if there are only these 4 tracks. If you want to separate an entire mix say 20 tracks, you would then use buses as shown below. Here I have both track 1 and 2 going to Master 1-2 and tracks 3 and 4 going to Master 3-4. They are still panned so will still go to the desired outputs. I've put a limiter on on to demonstrate the advantage of always having a master bus. The Hardware bus strips are found on the far right and are hidden by default. You can drag them into view. One small detail is Focusrite uses a software mixer ( I have the 1st Gen 6i6 ) and that can change things. Make sure the software mixer is set up for this. One reason why I don't use the 6i6 anymore. Setting up that thing was a nightmare. My Moto M4 and Zoom L8 it's all on the interface hardware.

Absolutely. But backing tracks tend to be just like a real band after sound check. And in my case the only difference between regular dance tunes and a waltz will be instead of -14 LUFS that song will be expected to be probably-15 or -16. Mostly due to the drums being more subdued. But I keep the bad the same in all songs just like you would with a real bass player. I also use backing tracks for our folk/ bluegrass band and those don’t use loud drums And the other guys make me turn any keyboards just about off. So the bass is the driving force. We run that through a bass amp. The drums and keyboards only go to the floor wedges and in ears as a glorified click track. I only make sure the bass is always the same level.

I noticed that Band in a Box uses very low levels in its midi files. So I can see it’s easy to end up there. My 2 favourite brick wall limiters after testing over a dozen freebies are LoudMax and the Boost 11. Make sure and turn the make up gain all the way down . Then set the peak level to 1.0 or 1.2 which every you like. This goes on the master at the top and the YouLean underneath. Here’s my other trick. On the master. Turn on the pro channel EQ. Now when you over load the master the on off button will turn red. So you back off until it doesn’t. You can turn the pro channel off when done but it really shouldn’t matter . The Loud Max will catch overs but it’s best they are not steady. I don’t care what anyone says that it doesn’t matter in digital, I’ve read otherwise from trustworthy sources. If that project still is peaking but has low LUFS readings then it will have something with high transient peaks. Possibly a snare of piano. Use Span or the pro channel EQ on the master to see if any particular frequency is peaking. Dang it gets complicated fast sorry ! it might be also that the bass isn’t loud enough . Bass is the most noticeable part of a backing track. That is why I always use only the AmpleP bass set at exactly the same velocity and output level of -4.0 db.

My last two interfaces have USB C ports. This is now the standard connection for devices. The old type B are fading away. The Motu came with C to A and a C to C cables. The Zoom just the C to A. I have a feeling the OP has a new laptop or tablet that doesn’t have headphone jacks. Therefore the supplied adapter and markings on the device. If it’s a tablet then the driver might not work. And since when have users manuals sucked? Possibly with certain brands but all the gear I purchased over the last few years had very good manuals. Especially the Zoom. Its important because each interface might need steps or rebooting to install the driver.

I don’t use it on the master I only turn it on to check this situation and once it goes out after turning down the input gain I bypass it again. As long as my LUFS are good I’m happy. I used to master as a second step but now it’s a simple process of just getting an export perfectly done.

That button is actually very good feature. But you have it backwards. Piano is a touch sensitive instrument that will sound boring if played flat at one velocity. But other keyboards like Organ are not touch sensitive so that feature is used when you play those instruments. The timber of a real piano changes as you play harder or softer. Midi emulates this by inputting different velocities and some VST’s respond in very good ways. They sample he instruments at different velocities. The more split point the better. This makes for a more realistic performance. Some don’t at all. I don’t think the TTS-1 will. Those just get louder. So I depends on what the piano is being used for. If it’s just a choppy rock and roll part it doesn’t matter. But if you are actually wanting a nice piano ballad sound then you would need the dynamics. Reading Richard’s post again I think the issue was actually a headphone or monitor set up issue. As in the balance between the computers audio and the mike level. Midi instrument tracks are audio tracks an treated the same way. You set them at a decent level and do not go into the red.

Yes. Using the manufacturer supplied or recommended cable. While you’re waiting, go to the website and download and read the user guide.

I did a lot of research looking for a 2x2 interface for my Grandson. Yes those are good choices. The SSL2 + was my favourite pick so we are just waiting to hear back from a few local music stores. Here’s my video I made that lists them all.

There's the problem, disable it, That's a feature aimed at novice users. Take control. You want to set input levels at your personal target. Mine is between -12 and -8db for vocals and guitars. If the interface does not allow this to happen I would be looking for a new one.

Thanks for the reply. @Jesse Jost It’s seems stupid that a lot of us are still installing ancient versions of Sonar and installing CCC just to grab a few plug ins. Every time you do a new install it’s this crazy process to get to the point we’re all things Cakewalk are up to speed. A one stop automated app would be a dream come true. I will personally thank staff for keeping all that legacy software available and assistance for the fools that lost their passwords to the account. It would be way to much to ask that staff be involved in transferring legacy products from CCC to CPC so a suggestion. Have a tool as part of CPC that says “ Import Legacy Products “ You’d click it and it would take you to your old products page? Just wishful thinking ? Your Loyal customer: John.

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It’s pretty easy to use individual tracks to preview. Use Solo Exclusive. I also will use the Ctrl W to make it so transport returns to the start of the phase I’m previewing. You have 3 or 4 tracks with you different takes stacked up. You insert a empty track ( I use track templates) and you set the now time before the first phrase and use exclusive solo listen to each track in turn. Pick the best one and drag that phrase to the empty assembly track. Use the shift key to keep timing right. Move to next phase and repeat. But lately I’ve been just doing the live punch in method using only one track. Sing the whole song and then go back over it listening and punching in the bad parts. It’s sort of the easiest way for me.

So we actually see some action that I hope will get this forum back on a positive pathway instead of all the negativity and threatening to switch DAW nonsense lately. The new Cakewalk Product Centre will finally solve a few ongoing issues like offline activation as well as I can see that in the future it will be our go to for updates and future purchases. It would be very very cool if they also add our legacy products here as well! @Jesse Jost ? @Noel Borthwick? I like it. And did any of you recent Nay Sayers notice the release notes for the CbB update. I counted over 50 Bug fixes! They most certainly did not have to do any of this but they did, proving once again that the developer team really does care and listen. OK everybody back to work and please relax and let them finish Sonar in peace and quiet. If it takes another 6 - 12 months that's fine by me.

This is wrong. The OP said they were overloading the Master bus. Pulling down the fader does not fix this issue. If you don't believe me just turn on the Prochannel EQ and you'll see the red light. Notice the red indicator in the EQ and the bypass toggle . If I pull the Fader down it's still overloading the bus But with the Fader at Unity and now I turn down the input gain that solves the overload issue. The Loud Max limiter will easily fix this but it's being fed an overloaded signal so that's not good. Even though I don't EQ my master I often turn it on just for that indicator. I can also then use it like Span for a spectrograph of the frequencies.

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I think this topic has come up many times and always ends up in a p__sing match. Let's not go there. But I will agree that many times when I do manual editing of automating it seems on the edge of weirdness. Just last night all I did was add a node to a flat line section that was at -8db and it drew a jump to 0 db?? I had to undo and try again and that time it worked correctly. It did this a couple of more times. Bugs? You never know. I've been experiencing weird mouse behaviours since getting W11. I guess I should go buy a new wired mouse if they still make them? This is my last one. I don't like wireless mice for Cakewalk.

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Killer! Way to much good s—t in the mix. And of course nobody can stomp a wha pedal like you. I guess I better buy the album!

Yes folk but actually classified as Celtic. Big fan of this and the production is as well done as anything else out there! Huge thumbs up! ??

Fantastic! Being a long time bluegrass and country player this is very refreshing to hear something that’s in my radar of good music. Lots of great details in the mix. This totally reminds me of the Blue Dogs. Look them up. You would be famous if it was 30 years ago!

It kinda sucks that the transition to midi 2 and UWP is taking such a painfully long time. Sort of like the new version of Sonar!

So you didn’t read the other 3 threads on the topic that right now are at the top? This is all getting a bit ridiculous ?