John Vere

Thanks for reminding us about the topic, but it is the Coffee house and a derailed thread is a good thread! I just found it hard to believe that those real bad ones at 2:20 were missed by everyone involved! I've been aware of them since the album came out because I bought it back then.

Seeing as how I had fired up the old computer I started looking to see if anything important should be copied from it for future. I found it had a 4th drive that was not connected so in that I found this. I'm on line now and the latest version is still installed and activated. I'm also logged into Bandlab. So the install ran normally and odd thing was the release notes opened and they are for the latest version. I will post that because this contains what we were told about offline activations as well as that older version cannot be activated. So I opened Cakewalk and got the warning about activation as well as proof that I had actually finally succeeded in installing an older version. But this is once again a dead end because it will not activate. I am totally logged into this forum and to Bandlab. I even opened Google password manager to double check my user name and password all attempts to use those failed. So more proof that the developers are not lying to us and older versions are now history. So if you are going to spread misinformation please supply proof !

OK I was game. So last night I set up my retired Office computer which has been sitting since November. It has the last release of Cakewalk installed from October. It also has a Backup of the Download folder from November 2022 full of Cakewalk installers. There was also a few installers still in the regular Download folder. I didn't plug in the LAN cable so it is offline. I fired up Cakewalk and got the offending splash screen. You can see it says no internet and is counting down. But it opened as expected. Ok so lets try this revert to older version that a few are claiming will work. Here's the first attempt ( we are still off line remember) this is the message I got when I tried any of the bottom 3 installers. This is the message I got when I tried the top few. I searched the computer which has had Cakewalk installed since 2018 and found a few older installers. I found one that worked but only got so far- I got this screen another dead end. So I fished around for the LAN cable and plugged it in and tried again, Now I get this message. Then I got this screen--- read what it say's-- " This Wizard will download and install the latest version of Cakewalk" No option to not let it do this. So I am finding it hard to believe this Myth that you can install and activate older versions. I had at least 10 ranging over the last 5-6 years and none of them work. On line or Off line. My conclusion is if you are off line the installer stops working at a certain point. If you are on line it will install the newest version. I even tried totally uninstalling Cakewalk and starting over , both off line and on line. I followed the link Mr Mirando posted to the product release page but there is no installers posted there. Just the rollback, and when you try and use a rollback you get the same error messages as above. Another dead end. Please advise of your steps you took to re install older versions.

The plan is he will be singing it Thanks everyone for you comments, much appreciated.

Dropouts are caused by your system choking on the data. Standard actions are to increase your audio interface buffers. Freeze tracks that have plug ins that are heavy hitters. Or avoid them. Run Resplendence Latency monitor and optimize your system for audio.

@Colin Nicholls As a personal choice I don’t answer high jack questions on old threads. Apparently there’s a majority of regulars that agree with this practice. The main reason is people are not aware they are reading an old post so it’s a huge time waster. And what if the high jacker starts getting answers and questions and so on? The thread becomes very confusing because nobody knows who is talking to who. High jacking is frowned upon in all user forums for good reasons. And most times the high jacker never returns anyhow. We welcome Mr Andreas to the forum and I'm sure all will be more than happy to help if they start their own thread.

@Bill Crockett You have run as Administrator to enter the serial and register codes. You can easily get at your legacy account by asking Cakewalk support to help you. They can get at the server and update you log in. It’s well worth the bother.

It took me 20 years of using lame drums played by midi sound modules, sound fonts, TTS-1 and finally I had Session Drummer. I even sampled my real drums and used those. But when Sonar incudes AD2 with Professional I got 2 free kits. I then upgraded to Platinum and got 2 more as that was how it worked. Then I got some add ons with my Focusrite 6i6. Plus I grabbed the Electric piano. So far all free. I have all of the common drum VST’s as demos or lite versions and the only other one I like is Steven Slate. Ez drums and Air Strike I found the interface way over my head so never got into it. I often use SI Drums on my other computer and I created a very decent sound with that. Anyhow I have my AD2 kit and it still doesn’t sound like real drums to me but for backing tracks and my songs it gets the job done.

Me too. I still have the old versions in my download folder backup. I have a couple of extra computers I don’t really use for much that all have Cakewalk on them. So we’ll see what happens. What understand is the old versions used the old Bandlab server that they told us had been de commissioned for the new one. This was why we were told we had to update. Staff in another similar thread chimed in and said the splash screen was added back in September when the last release came out and it’s just showing up now.

Oh my censored twice in the same day! I guess the beast that was apparently part of ,, hold it a minute, I better not type that name either because some people use it as a curse word. I was just going to say there was an …. In the stall in Bethlehem where this important historical event took place, hmm, And it’s in the lyrics of a popular Christmas song about a drummer. It kept time along with an Ox. Is Ox a curse word? I guess I’ll find out once I post. This is fun, let’s see how many words are censored here. Testing 1-23 Poo Testing 1-23 Dang Testing 1-23 Snot

Ya it was weird. I’ve never posted anything that when I did it said it was subject to review by a Moderator. I was thinking it was possible copywriting because of the video. I was surprised that the title of a song was forbidden by the forum due to it being the name of a bad ***** hard drug. Thanks to our furry friend the moderator for the fix. Testing 1-23 - Pot Testing 1-23 - Hash

As he said super simple - Takes 3 seconds. Use Ctrl A to select all then process/Transpose / set to -1 / check the audio box Make sure to have a complete back up of the project first. Normally a small amount like this will not trash things but digital audio can only do so much without artifacts happening to critical tracks like Vocals. My self if this has to happen I redo the vocals.

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Well it's a good thing you are switching to Cakewalk. Audacity has it's place in the software world but it's biggest drawback is it doesn't support ASIO. I use Gold Wave, Wave Lab and Sound Forge which do.

It always amazes me to here bloopers in popular songs. Possibly JJ Cale's version wasn't the hit that Eric's was, but every time I hear it I can't help but notice the Bass boners on the run down. Out of curiosity I looked up who this amazingly bad bass player was wondering how they got into a recording studio. Here I found my answer C****e was song #6 on the album. J. J. Cale – vocals, guitar, piano ( tr. 3 ), organ ( tr. 3 ), bass ( tr. 4, 6 ), slide guitar ( tr. 8 ), Electric Guitar, Soloist [First Solo] Charles Dungey – bass guitar on tracks 1, 9 Tommy Cogbill – bass guitar on tracks 2, 5, 8, 10-12 Joe Osborn – bass guitar on 3 Anyhow it's a classic example of why guitar players should not be allowed near a bass unless they have paid their dues actually playing the bass in a live band for a few years. @ 0: 28 is first signs that the bass player is unsure of what to play. 1:41, 2:00 Missing notes, ( edited out?) 1:54 another on the edge of trouble run. And the very noticeable train wreck at 2:20 where it's a good semi tone flat on not just one but 2 notes. Amazing that they never fixed this with all this re mastering etc. I could fix it in Cakewalks Next in a few minutes.

My favourite is Windows/ PrntScn. To take a screenshot of both monitors and it goes directly to a folder in Pictures. Then there’s a lot you can do to it with the Windows picture app. Before all this taking a screenshot and editing required a lot more moves and using various other apps. It’s like using printer/scanners now you just tell Windows to add it to the list and it works. No more installing a printer software and a bunch of useless bloatware.

Wallet Blues by Kluane Gross Jan 25 2024- https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14719703 My Grandson took up songwriting and is learning the acoustic guitar. His dad just past away a few weeks ago and we put this song together so he could play it for him as he was slipping away from us. Not exactly what you might think as appropriate, but if you knew his Dad Jason you would get it. A guy who's favorite Christmas song was Grandma Got run over by a Reindeer. Well they played lots of his favorite music that day, The Band, Allmand Brothers and the Dead. Jason was a musician himself and was a walking encyclopedia of all things connected to those bands. He only liked Country if it used a Les Paul and was corny. So Kluane had no idea yet about putting chords to a song and I just came up with the progression and we had something that worked within a half hour. I wanted the chords to be easy for him to play. So it's in C. The next day I came up with the Band in a Box idea to see what I could come up with for the style and groove. I also thought it would be a good tool for him to use is he progresses. He picked this one and I quickly figured out how to enter the chords and create an arrangement. Of course it sort of sucked so I exported as a midi file into Cakewalk and proceeded to obliterate all but the drums and there was a guitar chord track assigned to the Lounge Lizard with the Phaser turned on. But the style he picked didn't have a Pedal Steel which this song was crying out for. SO I simple went back and changed the style to one that had the pedal steel and actually learned I could drag and drop it from BiaB directly to Cakewalk. I edited the bad chords in Melodyne, thank goodness I just upgraded to the full version which does chords. I redid the bass with a real bass that I converted to midi and the Ample bass, I added a piano and then a acoustic guitar and the Tele lead. I haven't polished the vocals at all yet so I apologize for the performance and lack of clarity of the lyrics. We had 1 day to get it posted. Here's a screen shot of the console. As I did this I was thinking it would be cool if everyone shared this shot when posting a song. I might even help troubleshoot issues with mixes.

In my series I cover all these topics and explain it in very simple terms aimed at first time users

This is the link to my playlist which in the first 10 videos you’ll be an expert ! watch for the end screen links that takes you to the next video in the series.

They will still be in your download folder unless you deleted them. Otherwise they are no longer available from Bandlab. I have always copied my Downloads folder to a back up drive before I clear it out. You never know! But we are told you can no longer activate those.

But now a minimum size for OS drive is 1TB so all this is not worth worrying about really. Have get over our W7 workflows. I have just built a new computer back in November and have installed a ton of software and plug ins. It’s sitting at 10% and because nothing much is stored there as time goes on I doubt it will ever exceed 30% in its 3 year lifespan. Yes I will replace it then. It will become a data drive.

You don’t actually need to use envelopes there’s alternatives. I can think of a few. Only thing to be aware of is automation is none destructive editing but the following is not. But we are working at 32 bit floating point so myself I don’t worry about degrading the audio. Normalize each section of the song. Example figure out what the difference in level is between each of these parts. You can use the Gain knob to figure it out. Say it’s Intro -8db Verse -12db Chorus -10 db Solo-8db. Now divide each guitar track using Split into those sections and use Process Normalize to set each section at that level. A none destructive method is using Clip Gain. I think you might have less trouble seeing that. You do the same dividing of the tracks but use clip gain to lower the volume of sections leaving the solos the loudest. Only drawback is the sudden change in levels between parts which is were your method is actually better because you can use clip fade in and out. There’s nothing really wrong with what you are doing but I would definitely use buses to eliminate the need for duplicate effects on each track That’s one of the main purposes of buses.

The lanes should be visible in the Bus Pane same as track pane. The Bus pane is hidden by default and you open it with Shift B or drag into view.

@treesha Earlier on in this thread I claimed there was nothing in my folder but that was actually the one in Program Files. The Document location had 340 MB in it. Sorry about the confusion

At the top of this forum you’ll find Cakewalk support. They are very good about helping with legacy products even though it really has nothing to do with the current company.