John Vere

I found it still opens with GM files for preview but my favourite is the Coyote player. I also found the TTS-1 had the best Steel Drum out of dozens of other sources. Once again it wasn’t the best when soloed but it worked the best for the songs I’m covering by Jimmy Buffet.

I copied all the Cakewalk Core etc folders to my data drive before I followed the instructions to delete registry and Program file stuff. I just haven’t bothered to copy things back.

I’ll admit that I totally agree that as far as piano in a mix goes you are correct. I actually don’t use Addictive Keys on my own songs I use the old Cakewalk True Pianos. it is like night and day because it is simple. I used to always use the TTS/1 piano for same reason you are saying. I Then got the Addictive Keys demo when Sonar switched from Session Drummer to AD2. I was using it but in my last phase of re mixing all my original songs I discovered True Piano was what I was looking for. I only mentioned this thinking you were needing a “Better “ piano sound but I regress. I will miss the TTS-1 the day Windows updates kill it.

TTS-1 piano? That’s gotta hurt! Best free piano I’ve used was XLN ADDICTIVE keys has a lifetime demo that it’s only drawback is it is missing the extreme upper and lower octaves. Not an issue for me as I don’t use those ranges in my parts. it is miles above the flat sound of the TTS-1. You just need to create an XLN account and install the Manager app. You also get a lifetime demo of Addictive Drums which is one good kit with the Tom’s missing. Then I use SI drums just for the Tom’s.

Hold on to your money the sales are always Black Friday in November. You don’t need it for single track Audio to midi or tempo extraction. I tested this. I just fired up my Laptop which doesn’t have my Celemony account activation. So Sonar is using something called Melodyne Player which is the free demo that never expires. This should be the same for everyone. I loaded 4 audio stems I created in Next from a random commercial song. Bass, Drums, Other and vocals. I converted the bass track to mono and dragged it to AmpleP bass and it converted the audio to midi as expected. I then dragged the drum track to the timeline and that also worked perfectly. The only difference is I don’t get a dialogue asking for what algorithm to use. So tempo extraction works even with out a license for Melodyne.

Option # 1-Use a Sample player. You play samples of a steel guitar. That is the basic concept of Audio to Midi. But the sustained nature of the steel guitar would be very tricky without a lot of pitch bending etc. Option # 2- Cut and Paste, If you have a steel guitar audio track then you chop it up and move parts around. Basically Clip construction. Option #3 Band in a Box- I did a pretty good job of this by first entering the chords of the song into Band in a Box. It has "Real tracks" which are audio samples not midi. So the steel guitar sounds pretty good. I set the tempo and then choose a style that was close. This gave me enough to work with. I exported the audio and dragged it to my Sonar project. I then used Melodyne Studio which can edit chords and I manipulated the track so it fit the song a bit better. Band in a Box is AI but it's a bit drunk most of the time. As a result I don't let BiaB play in my band but it's a handy tool for all sorts of creative stuff like this. Well worth the $100.

I’ve rarely ever had that issue. I think it depends on material. It most certainly won’t work with sustained music. I always use the drum track. I Can now improve on that thanks to Next stem separation tool. Split the drums out of any song. In the past I sometimes had to nudge a few tempo nodes but now I seem to get very good results. I’m not trying to have dead on midi anyway. Mostly it really helps work on any song to have the beats and measures at least 1/32 or 1/64 note close enough just for visual editing. So if the OP has a drum stem to work with it is worth a shot. And yes I think you only need the very basic version of Melodyne which goes on sale for under $50.

You need to remove the Real Tech ASIO driver from your system it’s taken over. instructions are in this video

Holy cow That’s a huge mess. You have somehow installed a whole lot of potential trouble! For troubleshooting purposes delete all but the Audio Box driver. I don’t see that any of those are going to be important and especially to using Cakewalk. And yes just click and delete each folder. Some people like to backup the registry first but I never do. Those all look like garbage that gets installed with certain audio apps. You only need you audio interface for sound. Windows will use its own driver which is not ASIO so it’s not on that list. The only other one that looks like it might have been legit it the Presonus Studio 192 but do you own that? There’s hundreds of you tubes and documentation on the internet about optimization for audio so I won’t repeat what is easily found.

The oddest thing I’ve had was in the sync and caching my old Tascam interface was showing there instead of the Zoom. I had no problem in the past with having 2 or 3 ASIO drivers for my different interfaces co-existing together. I was flipping between te Motu and the Zoom just about daily for a while. Never had issues. I don’t use the Tascam anymore so I removed it. But that box is very important to stability of your audio engine. It has to match what you are using. And Cakewalk staff highly recommended you remove the Real Tech ASIO driver from your system.

You are not in proper ASIO mode. Either that or the Real Tech driver is interfering. You need to remove it in the Reg Edit app. I can tell this because you should not see the Real Tech as an option in the sync and caching. I also don't see the "use ASIO reported Latency" And another thing is you sometimes can have audio issues if you use way to high a buffer setting like you are. The first step is to get a good report from Latency Monitor. Get that puppy in the green before you continue. Watch this video and report back. https://youtu.be/y5bQhQuZEPQ

My favourite reference track is one of my own masters. It took 10 years to get that sucker to sound exactly the way I want my songs to sound. I don’t really want to sound like someone else so there you go. When I did try references tracks from my CD collection I found many of mine are older masters and so were made from the masters used for LP replication. There were like 16 LUFS. Mp3 is out of the question if you are serious. But they can serve a purpose of training your ears to learn about your headphones and monitors. My interfaces all have Loopback so it’s pretty simple to record songs off YouTube. I pay an annual fee which is a pathetic donation to the music community but that’s not anything I can fix.

I was thinking that too. But it’s always the same size. It’s just like everything else in Sonar compared to Cakewalk. The new graphics make a lot of stuff almost invisible for many of us. I think it’s more related to screen resolution and unless you purchase a brand new hi res 40” wide screen monitor your hooped. I was trying to work in Sonar’s PVR on a bass track and I realized that I couldn’t see the note names? I made the blobs a little bigger and still couldn’t see. I have always used the same Blue that is first on the left of the colour palette. I had to change the colour to a light blue. So I opened the project in Cakewalk and I could easily see the note names. So this is the big mystery! Why are we all of a sudden working in the dark? I then discovered that my blue looked ok in Track view but was way darker and sort of purple in Sonars PVR. I then discovered none of the old colours looked right anymore. Those colours go back 30 year I do believe.

Good question and I'd be curious myself. Generally we are told you always install from the oldest to the newest version. I found out this seems solid advice. A month ago I installed Sonar Home Studio out of curiosity wanting to compare it to Next. I had Sonar installed. Everything seemed ok but then I started having Sonar crash for no reason. I submitted the Dump files and staff advised me to do a fresh install of Sonar. I lost all my personal settings in preferences. All my Key bindings etc. And the weirdest thing is Sonar now was using the Black Splat icon on the desktop. I couldn't get it to change. So this is sort of the reason we follow that advice and start with run CCC first and then install Sonar. ( Cakewalk )

Hey that's way to much so I see what you are saying. Just thinking out loud here.. My son has a Behringer X16 Air. It can mix using the wi fi network. I'm pretty sure that it might also send midi and control Sonars Mixer? no sure. But what this made me think is there might be a control surface that uses WiFi ?

The UMC 22 and UMC 2 are the only 2 audio interfaces I found after researching over 60 2x2 audio interfaces that do not have ASIO divers. They use Asio4all which is not ASIO but WDM mode ( windows) wrapped so it can fool software into thinking it’s ASIO. It was a work around in the old days before W10 and WASAPI driver modes. Of all the 60 interfaces available you have one that no matter what you try will have issues with Cakewalk. Theres been dozens of other threads on here and same complaints. Sell it to someone with a Mac which is what it was designed for.

How much does RVNC want? Seems this is a situation where you just start paying for something that was free. Hey, wait a minute, that sounds awfully familiar?

I forgot I had included how I used mix Recall in a this Tutorial.

You see, nobody understand what they are, even long time users. Mix scenes and Workspace are entirely different things. Mix scenes don't care which workspace you are using. You can change workspaces at any time and it has no bearing on a Mix scene. The concept of the Mix scene was generally developed so you could save a project at a point when you were satisfied with the mixing stage. You save the mix scene and export the project. But then you start thinking the project might sound better with a different approach to the effects and EQ etc. I even found I could replace different synths. You make the changes and now save that as a new and different mix. They assumed you were now at the mixing stage of a project and you where not going to be adding any new parts. I'm not sure what you can get away with. I know automation and Tempo are part of it. I haven't read the documentation in 10 years so don't quote me. I only know what always has works for me. It was discovered that Mix Scenes could also be applied to different but identical projects even if the Audio and Midi data was different. I have used this on dozens of live recordings where it's a whole night and 30 songs without an issue. Those projects were of course all using the same template and the only thing different was the Audio and Midi data. I've never had a crash. I have defiantly recalled mix scenes on a few projects without issues. I'll have to try messing with one someday and see if I can say, record a new track and recall an old scene.

Read my 1st post. To the projects track pane, just like dragging audio and midi clips.

Yes this is what Mix Recall is for. But! you cannot apply mix recall to a totally different layout the projects have to be exactly the same track and bus layout. And named the same too ( I think?) If the tracks are all the same it works brilliantly. For me it's best application is with multitrack live recordings. Then each project is exactly the same. You get song #1 sounding the way you want it and you save it as Mix scene 1. no point naming it as this won't show in the folder. Now open song #2 and using the browser go to song #1 project folder and find the mix scene folder. drag Song #1 Mix(1).CWM from there and drop it on the track pane of song #2. All the changes including effects and even instruments you added will populate song #2. It's amazing and I don't think any other Daw can do this trick. I have a feeling not many people even realize that it is there. I use it on all my original songs and in that case I always save a mix scene and in this case I do rename it with the date after I export a mix. This accomplishes 2 things. I can revert to a earlier mix and it also shows me I have opened the most up to date version of the project and not some back up copy.

New computer then this means you need to optimize it for audio. Start with this https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon Dell's can need extra work to remove stuff they build into the Bios. I have personal experience with that one. I would never buy a Dell for audio again after that mess. Presonus interfaces often install a invasive ASIO driver that is different from the real ASIO driver. Check that you are for sure using the proper ASIO driver. Look in the box I show below and make sure this matches the same wording as in the Drivers settings tab Playback and recording timing master. They are also near the bottom of the bench test lists for pre amp noise and quality. A different interface would be on my checklists. Interfaces do make a difference. Example Motu M4 @ 256 buffer- Crackles and Pops. Same computer, same project Zoom L8 and Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 @ 256 no crackles or pops. I sold the Motu.

Didn’t Scook make a tool that does this. Ya I found it https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eiVH_I1clbbRtWFh4-3Mo7HANjCxR8SwqHJtYXy19gw/pub

Just so you know. There won't be any changes made to Cakewalk so not much point in making feature requests. Any feature requests will be for Sonar. Your issue is possibly with your screen resolution. Your cursor looks a little narrower than mine. As well as you are using a dark theme so it makes it hard to work. One reason I'm not to upset about letting Sonar expire and returning to Cakewalk. I totally can't work in dark themes. I'm hoping they will have a theme editor before they finally release it for sale. Here I have to use Mercury in Sonar and it's ugly. Here's Cakewalk using a custom theme made by Scook ( ya we do miss him)