John Vere

I installed it when it first came out and I guess I've updated it a few times. But for the life of me don't understand what it is for? Or is it even needed? All it shows is Cakewalk Next which I have installed along with Sonar. So why isn't Sonar showing? And Isn't Cakewalk by Bandlab also supposed to be listed? As well as the SI instruments? Melodyn demo? I haven't opened it in a while. I had un installed CbB a few weeks ago so was going to re install it now we have the news it isn't a dead duck, . I thought I'd find it here. So I uninstalled it and then a Google search takes me to a old post on this forum. I click the link and get this weird page? I then, finding nothing else to do, clicked on the link at the top to open with Zip extractor?? That got me this even weirder page? So I gave up. I think there's a lot of work needs to happen on the web sites. And I guess this app is still in development and not actually essential at this point in time.

We’re totally off topic but this is my Fred and I can approve of this. I have a Custom made Tele with 2 humbuckers as well as a G&L Tele with a soap bar at the bridge and Humbucker at the neck. I sold my standard Tele in a down and out of money phase and I want it back! I just picked up a Indonesian Strat for $300 a couple of months ago. It’s the same colour as the Tele above. So I thought a matching set would be cool. I then upgrade the Pups. So now I don’t have to purchase Sonar I’m free to do this instead. There’s a Tele in our local music store with a B and G bender for $750. Tempting but I like the imports just fine. You just have to add better electronics.

I also asked a staff member in a PM and they said the same as in the announcement. There seems to be no plan to end Cakewalk for a long while yet. Why would they? That would mean literally millions of people would be let down in a big way and very pizzid off. Believe me, the development staff are 100% on our side. Show them support! They are not in charge of the big decisions but I think they can make recommendations.

This is actually my best season, I have lots of gigs lined up and some pay me enough I could almost afford that wonderful copy of Pro Tools! But I'd rather a new Blue Telecaster!

What's weird is you don't seem to be able to purchase it on the Avid web site. Its all Subscriptions. But you can purchase a perpetual license from vendors.

I just read in another thread we are informed that the nag screen will be removed soon. This implies full access to Cakewalk forever But we will see.

I rarely have seen a nag screen myself. I think you see it if your offline? All I ever see is a toast every day telling me I’m Activated. Seems to only be an issue for a few. The Cakewalk people are not going to suddenly kill Cakewalk with out plenty of warning. Relax. I am predicting they are slowly making stuff ready and things will change for the better as time goes by. It’s a small team and this is a major changeover. As far as Splat goes there’s plenty of bugs but not everyone has a workflow that might reveal them. And personally I use a lot of the features that were added to CbB and don’t wish to go back 10 years in time. It’s totally unnecessary to do that. And don’t forget. There’s nothing stopping Bandlab from shutting down activation for Splat. Sonar is the real answer and the best solution and I'm willing to bide my time until it's for sale. Possibly by then it will have a Theme editor!

Apple storage is weird. Have you ever lent a Thumb drive to a buddy who uses a Mac? It will come back with 3 new folders added. My guess is you can safely delete the asset files. They will still be on the cloud server anyways.

Am I missing something? Why would you want to use Splat when you can use CbB? It seems we will still have Cakewalk for possibly a few more years. It is miles above Splat in enhancements and bug fixes and they are both the identical version.

As Jonathan has said that would be way more trouble than it would be worth. Sonar X3 was considered the first of the X series to be stable. I wouldn’t even want to go back to Splat. And why worry? We are now informed that there’s no plan to end Cakewalk.

Nobody is stealing, it’s just a bad contract! Sign here boys and we’ll look after everything for you!

I was thinking about how I better remember to cancel my Bandlab Backstage pass in a few weeks. As I said it’s a bit more than $20 for me in Canadian funds. It's Summer and I won't be in the studio much. It's live gigging season. Then I realized that I’ve now spent $100 on Sonar! I don’t own it and when I end my membership it will cease to function. So 5 months $100. Ya I could have taken the bait on the discount offer and had 12 months for about $160 Can. But I was one of the fools who believed we would be able to purchase it by now. But it really drives home the fact that subscribing is the stupidest way to use software for me. $100! poof- gone and nothing to show.

Luna doesn’t support ARA. So way off my list. And I feel it might be a good Daw for people who choose to buy in to their whole system of audio interfaces and plug ins. That is it’s strong point for sure but that’s possible why they made it free( for now?)

Here we all are 1 year later and it’s been a huge distraction for many. Notice there’s rarely a thread started asking an actual question about USING Sonar. Most of them are dug up from the dungeon. Views of all my how to use Cakewalk Tutorials have dropped right off the map. Very little interest in Next too. I guess that statement about CbB is actually the best news of all! It seems they might have changed their mind about killing it completely and it will now kept as a sort of free demo for Sonar. The key words that were not included in past statements is that it will still receive a updates. This implies a longer lifespan than I originally expected. Good news. I wouldn’t get my hopes up that they would remove the activation. Edit: Instead of speculating I asked and was told the 30 day cycle will still happen but without the big splash screen, just a polite toast. It is a small price to pay for using a free Daw as powerful as Cakewalk. Please don't anybody complain about this. Be happy! Cakewalk will still be available and free. This is the best news in a whole year!

I’m hoping they will eventually offer that we can transfer all our legacy products over to the new Cakewalk Product Manager. I got a reply back in the fall where a staff member said I wasn’t too far off base in that regard. Then they can kill the old server. You must admit they have been very good about all the old Gibson accounts and they even spent time and money on the CCC last fall and updated it. I have a feeling that this is purely the Cakewalk development team looking after the long time loyal supporters and nothing to do with Bandlab. It’s been said over and over to not to bother and come here and complain about the Membership deal. I doubt if our wonderful dedicated developers would have chosen that. I bet they do care to loose even just one of us, but they have little or no power over the money part of this.

This is all covered in my video. But you need the full installer that was last released in November 2023. All Sonar and CbB installers after that do not include the TTS-1.

There’s no CbB in my Products Manager. Just Next. If you never delete your Download folder all your CbB installers should still be there. Before I empty my download folder I always copy it to a backup drive and date it. If you want the TTS-1 you will need the CbB installer from last November. It will then ask you to update which is fine ( sort of)

Each is a totally separate install. There are some shared folders that are not removed during a plain uninstall using the Windows App list. You have to physically remove the shared folders. I even did a Clean uninstall of both CbB and Sonar as instructed by staff because it seemed Sonar was crashing due to corruption. I then re installed just Sonar and everything was working fine including all my goodies from my legacy products. I still haveSonar 8.5, x3 installed. I always install them first when re building. Then I run CCC and install my goodies. I don’t bother with Splat as CbB has all that stuff.

I can’t afford a Toyota or a Honda. I have a Hyundai.

Sorry. I first save them as midi file and export all the audio as stems. I then just drag and drop the midi file into Mixcraft and that creates the most important part of most of my projects. I have to replace the synths which takes a few minutes and then I drag and drop the audio stems into the project. It is sounding pretty close in only about 10- 15 minutes. All that is left is adding my effects.

@Jeff Bowman Its easy to back up CWP projects so projects can be opened in any Daw. I split this into two parts

Waveform is free. Luna is Free. But they don't support Ara. Ara is critical to my workflow. Cakewalk by Bandlab might keep working for a long time yet as well. I bought Mixcraft on sale for $150 Can and it has Ara. I've been able to open my Cakewalk projects with no issues at all.

You nailed it! This forum is only really a handful of users and if you scoured every post over the last year you might round up 50 people who stated clearly they are against subscriptions. I would imagine now they have posted this in a more public manner that the Bandlab Membership will grow in leaps and bounds. If they lose 50- 100- 500 people that's peanuts in the big picture. Heck they probably lost hundreds of people already. I guess I'm going to put Sonar aside for now with the hopes they will sell it someday. My Monthly fee was just updated last week so I have Sonar for a few more weeks. I had earmarked June as my last month anyway. It's $20.30 Canadian which is way to much for my music budget. I will continue my task of saving all my projects as Midi and Stem files. My originals are already safe from harm and everything else is not important. I write a new song it will be with Mixcraft. Someone ( Misha? ) mentioned they thought it would take hundreds of hours to learn a new Daw. I would say yes if it's overly complicated like Cakewalk. But I'm finding I'm using Mixcraft and rarely having to read the manual.

This is totally different than before and the download link is even included in the banner. But- IMPORTANT_ this doesn't actually tell us there will NEVER be a perpetual licence so we are still left hanging.

Put a spectrum analyzer on your master bus to determine the frequency. If it’s 60 cycles ( North America) It could be USB related. I had trouble like this a long time ago and was directed to try a better quality USB cable and that solved my issue. There are USB cables that have a ferrite choke on them. It could also be a USB ground loop issue.