MusicMan

Now if only they dropped a $20 no minimum spend voucher, people would go completely nuts! ?

Haha... I wasn't sure if you were referring to my post or not, as you added a reaction and then posted, so I did think it could go either way.. but I was just having a laugh and being cheeky anyway! ? It's funny you mention VST. I actually like that! It also captures the essence of what it originally was quite well "Virtual Studio Technology". But I'm also mindful that it's been around so long, that it's very familiar and that could bias my thoughts on it a little. To include something about it being an open standard, or cross platform to me would be better than "Clever Little Audio Plugin". Even CLP is a slight improvement, but I still don't really like that. Pavlov's comments are on point though. Branding can play a big part and a great name for it should resonate with the most amount of people possible. It's going to be a hard sell for Steinberg and Avid in particular as it is. Let alone their marketing departments are probably going to cringe when they tell them they want to give their DAWs the CLAP! ? VST is short and catchy and lends itself well to versions. CLAP3 if it gets there just sounds a little odd in my opinion! But then again, maybe their only intent was to give it a CRAP name to get people talking and raise awareness ?

I think you might be projecting there ? Haha.. I never said I related the name to an STD, I just don't think it sounds good. I would like to think they could come up with something better, more catchy and recognisable to what it's about. The fact that it translates to Gonorrhea is just another sign it didn't hit the mark as well as it could've!

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Thanks!

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I took a punt on RC-20 being updated to VST3.. for $19 it was worth the risk.. and they delivered! Very happy with that purchase now ?

The name really doesn't make any difference... But calling it CLAP is quite possibly one of the worst names I've heard in a long time ?

Thanks ? It's possible they just hadn't updated the page I was looking at. Although definitely can't assume VST3 support in this day and age it seems!

I wondered about these, but the bundle didn't seem to be VST3..

This isn't instantly grabbing me as much as I thought it might. I guess for the regular price and even the sale price, maybe my expectations may have been too high. It could also be a little more source material dependent and work with less things, but I'm not sure it's actually adding much to what I already have in that space. If it was $29 or some reasonable price then I'd be more likely, but for what it adds even at sale price, that's quite a few other quality plugins that the money could go towards. I'll still spend some more time checking it out, but it hasn't wowed me so far.

That seems a bit cheaper than I've seen the Zener Bender for before. Just taking it for a test run now to see if I might want to buy it.

That doesn't strike a chord with me.. I suspect their sales may be a little flat as a result and I don't think it's the sharpest of business ideas.. they may need to fine tune that ?

Yep, I think they noticed it was broken... I refreshed the page again to see and it now says unauthorized for me too. This was the URL https://customer.focusritegroup.com/en/software/plug-collectivesound-collective-3-months-ni-komplete-now-subscription

Strange.. it shows up in my account, but I get an error if I try and claim it. I might raise a support ticket, but I'll probably just wait and see if it irons itself out for now.. I'm not in a huge rush to get this one.

Dirk... is that... you... ? ?

Exactly this. If people stop paying and buying their plugins, WUP would be gone in a few years. Not exactly rocket science. It's a crap practice and given the plethora of alternative companies that provide ongoing updates for the life of plugins, it's a bit comical people pay it so willingly. That's why I very reluctantly buy anything Waves any more. Instead of paying WUP, I just look to replace it with something from another developer.

Given WUP is their gravy train, there's really very little incentive for Waves to care about getting the plugins right the first time around.. quite the opposite... They can hurry to release and sell and then care about bug fixes a few years later, essentially double dipping and getting people to pay more than once. I like all the devs that provide bug fixes at least for as long as they're selling it and that is a very long list of developers with excellent plugins.

That's a lot of bug fixes... Now I see why they need WUP.. they make really buggy software ??

The GAS side of me is disappointed I missed out on this one, as it's a killer deal! But I have been a little on the fence lately about iZotope and I'd mainly only be wanting it for a few things, so I don't feel too bad. That said, I think I would've found it pretty hard to resist at that price, even for those couple of items. Great score to those that got it ?

Underwhelm installed ? This is almost as exciting as the rare Waves $29.99 sale.. incidentally it's even a dollar more expensive than a Waves sale... They should bottle this for Insomnia.. Definitely put me to sleep ?

I will keep my underwhelm ready and on standby, but happy to be surprised ?

Nailed it ? Loopcloud is sub, but you can stop your subscription at any time and still use it for any packs, or samples you've bought, even packs you paid for, or got free on Loopmasters. You can also use it for local samples and loops without a sub too. But I think you need at least one month sub to be able to add and scan all your local libraries initially. You're right too.. Loopcloud does actually have a lot of built in effects! Loopcloud seems like the clear winner between the two so far.

I think you're right on it being a different beast to Kontakt. Even though they're both samplers. Kontakt isn't as loop focused at all. Many libraries are loop focused for it, but I never really consider it for that. Loops I'd just use Cubase personally. I'm terms of online library, I don't see any issues with that and I think the more options the better ? They do already have a number of synths that include some of the PA plugins in the same rack type interface, so I'm not sure that's it, as you can just buy them. Decoupling should be easy, at least it's no trouble at all for Loopcloud. That supports both local samples/loops and online library. I think you're on the money with the last point. Maybe they don't care about sales, or adoption of it, it's just a marketing / advertising thing to get people over the line with subs. All good food for thought ?

NI is indirectly fine regardless now due to the merger ? I'd agree, that positioning might make some sense. Even Waves CR8 can be used without a subscription though (I think, I didn't bother trying it) and I can't believe I'm going to say this .. but that might give Waves the edge ? I'm terms of the DJ side, the digital mixers, DDJs and digital turntables generally come with built in samplers and looping and connect to DJ pools, or downloaded content. Ableton Live seems to be common for those that want more outside of that, so my thoughts are they won't be big there. I'm sure they'll get quite a few people though, both indirectly that have the sub for other reasons and those where it may sweeten the subscriptions to get them over the line, but they're going to miss out on a huge market unnecessarily, which makes their road harder.