Giuliano Cocco Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Hello Support! I have this problem: when I import a midi file containing text I can see the text events in the event list of the track but these events are not (I think obviously) treated as song lyrics, probably because whoever edited the midi file used the event type for the title and copyright texts instead of the one for the song lyrics So I need to change the event type from TEXT to LYRICS. Despite being a developer I can't understand the syntax in CAL scripts very well, especially to assign a value to the Event Type property. do ( (forEveryEvent (do ( if (== Event.TEXT Type) (= ???? I don't know how to set the event type to LYRIC) ) ; if statement ) ; do statement ) ; forEachEvent statement ); do main statement Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparker24 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 First of all, your statement: ( if (== Event.TEXT Type) should be: ( if (== Event.Kind TEXT) However, according to some documentation I have, you CANNOT change the Event.Kind (e.g. from TEXT to LYRIC). Here's a quote from Page 17/101 of "The Cakewalk Application Language Programming Guide for SONAR". The constants: “CHORD”, “EXPRESSION”, “HAIRPIN”, “LYRIC”, “MCI”, “NRPN”, “RPN”, “SYSX”, “SYSXDATA”, “TEXT”, “WAVE” allow an “Event.Kind” test to locate these “Events” in a sequence, and yet there are no provisions for viewing, accessing or changing the values associated with them. This makes their use rather limited to merely hunting for this type of event, but not being able to do anything with it, once it has been found, except deleting them! Nevertheless, I list them here mostly because, for many of them, their existence as they relate to CAL is undocumented. These constants are only available in the versions of Cakewalk that support these data types as part of their feature package. BTW, that manual seems hard to find these days. Mine says: The Cakewalk Application Language Programming Guide for SONAR Version: 2.2 Original author: D. Glen Gardenas Editing and adaptations: Ton Valkenburgh Review: Frans H.M. Bergen Febrary, 24, 2010 http://www.MIDI-Kit.nl [this no longer seems to work] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 the event kind is read-only. if you need to "change" an event kind to something else, you could create a new one of the desired event kind, assigning whatever value made sense, then delete the one you found (or leave it). in essence - you're replacing the event kind you want to change with a new one of the kind you want 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Quote BTW, that manual seems hard to find these days. I just found it here via a Google search for "Ton Valkenburgh CAL" . Edited February 12 by User 905133 added a period at the end of the sentence after the quotation mark. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparker24 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 33 minutes ago, Glenn Stanton said: the event kind is read-only. if you need to "change" an event kind to something else, you could create a new one of the desired event kind, assigning whatever value made sense, then delete the one you found (or leave it). in essence - you're replacing the event kind you want to change with a new one of the kind you want 🙂 Good thought, but unfortunately, you can't INSERT an EVENT of type LYRIC. This is according to page 30/101 of the above-mentioned "The Cakewalk Application Language Programming Guide for SONAR". (The only 6 types you can INSERT are: NOTE CONTROL WHEEL PATCH KEYAFT CHANAFT). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tparker24 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, User 905133 said: I just found it here via a Google search for "Ton Valkenburgh CAL" . Good one! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny.G Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I don't know if you want or need to use a CAL script to solve this problem, however if you want to solve the midi text/lyrics problem you can also use this MFX plugin Text2lyrics. I had the same problem as you and I solved with this one. Thanks again to AZSlow for this plugin! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Quote LYRIC This constant equals 2. The data associated with this event is a single syllable or word that is to be sung at that instant in the song. These lyrics can be displayed during playback in the ‘Staff’ view. The variable contains a single text word of syllable, and is not accessible by CAL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 You can change the event type from Text to Lyric, but you lose the actual text word as CAL does not have access to the TEXT value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuliano Cocco Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, tparker24 said: First of all, your statement: ( if (== Event.TEXT Type) should be: ( if (== Event.Kind TEXT) However, according to some documentation I have, you CANNOT change the Event.Kind (e.g. from TEXT to LYRIC). Here's a quote from Page 17/101 of "The Cakewalk Application Language Programming Guide for SONAR". The constants: “CHORD”, “EXPRESSION”, “HAIRPIN”, “LYRIC”, “MCI”, “NRPN”, “RPN”, “SYSX”, “SYSXDATA”, “TEXT”, “WAVE” allow an “Event.Kind” test to locate these “Events” in a sequence, and yet there are no provisions for viewing, accessing or changing the values associated with them. This makes their use rather limited to merely hunting for this type of event, but not being able to do anything with it, once it has been found, except deleting them! Nevertheless, I list them here mostly because, for many of them, their existence as they relate to CAL is undocumented. These constants are only available in the versions of Cakewalk that support these data types as part of their feature package. BTW, that manual seems hard to find these days. Mine says: The Cakewalk Application Language Programming Guide for SONAR Version: 2.2 Original author: D. Glen Gardenas Editing and adaptations: Ton Valkenburgh Review: Frans H.M. Bergen Febrary, 24, 2010 http://www.MIDI-Kit.nl [this no longer seems to work] Thank you very much for your reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuliano Cocco Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Glenn Stanton said: the event kind is read-only. if you need to "change" an event kind to something else, you could create a new one of the desired event kind, assigning whatever value made sense, then delete the one you found (or leave it). in essence - you're replacing the event kind you want to change with a new one of the kind you want 🙂 Thank you very much for your reply! Yes, i thought so also... if i try to change by cakewalk event list it reset the old value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuliano Cocco Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, User 905133 said: I just found it here via a Google search for "Ton Valkenburgh CAL" . Super! Thank you very much for your reply and your help ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuliano Cocco Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, Ronny.G said: I don't know if you want or need to use a CAL script to solve this problem, however if you want to solve the midi text/lyrics problem you can also use this MFX plugin Text2lyrics. I had the same problem as you and I solved with this one. Thanks again to AZSlow for this plugin! Thank you, I've downloaded the Text2lyrics and put the 2 dlls files into all the plugins folders of cakewalk and choose Fx plugin but when for the Text track i cannot find any lyrics anyway. did you ever tried this plugin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny.G Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 8 hours ago, Giuliano Cocco said: did you ever tried this plugin ? Yes, as I said I used it a lot in the past for solve the problem that some midi files have "words" saved as text and not as lyrics and this plugin is the only one that works. You have to apply the effect not insert it. You have to: - select the track with "words" - right click - Process Effect - MIDI Effects... - Uncategorized - AZ Text2Lyrics - OK Conversion done, now you can view the lyrics tab of the track and the "words" are there. Not perfect as page layout and margin but the syllabs are preserved. This is the best that can be automatically done by the plugin. Consider also that CbB isn't a dedicated fine tuned program for display midi lyrics, so it's limited if you need to display lyrics on screen in a live situation. Edited February 13 by Ronny.G Update with steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I just use GMMIDI https://www.gnmidi.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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