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Thanks @Noel Borthwick .. very interesting session. Next step is to continue correspondence with the vendor - AUDIENT. Much appreciated that session, thank you

Done, thanks Noel

In a sense yes. It worked last night on my laptop WHICH I HAD NOT REBOOTED then. Today I turned on both systems, driver mode set to ASIO, tried MMCSS both enabled and disabled. Pretty much Dropout Error 0 the minute I load any file new or old. Cannot reenable the audio engine and hear a regular ticking noise over the speaker. Also the MIC Icon is flashing on and off down in the system tray if thats any help. With no audio engine, cannot play a project AND the cursor on the screen is a circle going around in circles. Switch to WASAPI .. all is well

Unfortunately this morning on my two systems .. no joy. Putting the Audio setting back to Evo 4 ASIO & Disabling MMCSS didnt work. In fact now it eventually opens files with Dropout 0 error and then pretty much crashed CW. So back to WASAPI for me on both for a while

@Kevin Perry Thanking you good sir. So far, that appears to have sorted this issue. ASIO working the way it should. Will try on my other system tomorrow and see if same. I move the EVO tween 2 systems

Reinstalled on top of whats there BUT still getting these errors. Next up a complete uninstall/reinstall

Interesting you are getting the same kind of issues with a different I/F ..

What I/F do you have @Bruno de Souza Lino .... The EVO??

When installing whats with the Microsoft Edge Webview2 runtime install thing that pops up?

Thanks @Noel Borthwick .. much appreciated .. Same crew who gave us the ID4 I/F https://audient.com/products/audio-interfaces/id4/overview/

For last and this update I have been getting these Type 0 dropouts .. at this stage I am getting these with my older Cakewalk project files. Only time I dont get these dropouts is with brand new file, though I have not tested that enough yet. The error I get as file loads is below, consistently. Plus it takes a while to load the files, longer than I would expect. System is Core i5, 16GB Ram, 1TB HD sata. And if they play, they do so with crackles eventually crashing with this dropout error 0 again. So I decided to try something. I have an AUDIENT EVO 4 audio I/F ( latest Drivers ). I decided to switch the AUDIO in CW Prefs to WASAPI so I could change over to the built in Realtek soundcard. BODA BING ... not alone did any of the "trouble" files load up without this dropout error, they also loaded super fast, no crackles. So do i have to conclude that CW doesnt like the AUDIENT EVO 4 ASIO Driver? I just also tested the following .. I switched the AUDIENT over to WASAPI and once again BODA BING .. all seems to be well, fast file load, no crackles, no dropouts .. so far Seems to be ( in my case ) the Audient Asio driver is the issue???

So keep your X3 installed alongside so as to have access to the extras that came with that at the time. CbB install then picks up all the extra instruments etc installed by X3. Leave X3 installed .. doesnt take up much room, you wont be using it, just there to give you access in CbB to the stuff you got with X3 that was not be licenced by or wasnt bought out by Bandlab in 2018. BUT you still own legit because you bought X3 at pre that time and have a right to use still

How is it up against the UJAM stuff?

Hi @Noel Borthwick ... I would need to recreate but Im sure it was 1. As i think I solved it by replacing one of the 2 incidents of Cherry Audio DCO-106 with an Arturia 2600 VSTi playing the same line. So as mentioned by @chris.r it looks like its a DCO issue rather than CW? However out of interest I will try 2 separate DCO incidents in Ableton and Reason, see if same issues. For the giggle by all means download the Cherry Audio DCO106 demo and try it and see? https://cherryaudio.com/instruments/dco-106 It seems to be related to this in DCO106 actually. The number of voices, so happens for certain patches: When DCO tracks frozen still glitches a bit the odd time, but would need to solidly verify that. OK, I deleted the 2 incidences of the DCO from the track, glitch free ( when i say glitch I mean track while playing would crackle and/or momentarily lag, start/stop while playing with other tracks )

After much investigation I have narrowed down my issue to this. Take lanes causing Audio engine drop out. I have a small few tracks though. 2 Audio tracks with wav loops and then 2 tracks with Cherry Audio DCO-106 VSTi synth, ONE of the DCO-106 tracks has 2 take lanes with midi. If I play the track soloed, after 2 loop arounds the audio engine drops, while playing its glitching. If I delete the 2 take lanes, rest of project plays seamlessly. I have an AUDIENT EVO 4 I/F .. latest drivers and firmware. I have increased the ASIO Buffer size to 2048, still glitching but not dropping out. Its a core i5 Dell Inspiron with 16GB ram, nvidia card with own memory, 2TB Hybrid Drive. Any ideas? EDIT .. Im beginning to wonder is it a Cherry Audio issue. I just moved the track contents inc take lanes over to an Arturia 2600 V3 track, no problems here, no dropouts, no glitchy sounds. On the DCO I was using the TAKE ME ON patch. I have another DCO track using AMBIENT KEYS patch. Once I moved the errant track from the DCO to the 2600, all other tracks play fine at 512 buffer size SO maybe its the PATCH & a setting there in??

@David Grammerstorf I am encountering the same issue on my Core i5 laptop ( 16gb ram, nvidia card, 2tb hybrid drive ). My audio I/F is a new Audient EVO 4. I cannot play through a whole track without hearing distorted sounds, drop outs ( Audio Engine Dropout 18 ) even if I solo each track. Like you I have the latest updated drivers for evo, messed around with both sample rate and asio buffer sizes. No avail, same problem. I posted about this here a few weeks back, no real solution. I do reckon it seems to be under the latest CW update that this is happening. I am going to try the same vstis in Ableton and Reason now just to see if I get similar BUT I think I did that previously and it seems to be definitely particular to CW. I am using a wav bass drum audio track + 3 Cherry Audio DCO-106 synth track lines. I am now at a point that I cannot work with CW .. Actually can you downgrade CW to previous version?

I assume being modelled the Arturia is alot more editable/tweakable?

As far as I know Arturia are actual coded Synth VSTi's and not relying on samples which the Syntronik does, a rompler?

Of course what some SOFTWARE companies could do and ARE doing is opening an EU office in the EU. Many are doing so in Dublin across the Irish Sea. Plus on mainland Europe.

And now add this just breaking: So we could now have UK after Jan 1st trading with the EU on WTO rules until deal ratified in March .. So definitely that now means Tarrifs and Excise tween the 2 because WTO insists on this across all members and all members will insist, thems the WTO rulez .. ironically one for all and all for one, so much for taking back control and pure sovereignty

Spend before 11pm GMT ( 12 midnight CET ) on 31st December 2020 and you should be fine, and then only on immediately downloadable purchase, not something that needs shipping

Its not just tax regimes, its also way more paperwork adding to the product price of outgoing/incoming stuff. So buying online from UK biz could cost you extra excise and so on as UK from Jan 1st is a Third country where EU is concerned. TBH that deal is so thin .. Boris and Co for internal consumption are pushing it as biggest thing since sliced pan because they have to and spinning it accordingly, dont believe the hype. And another thing to seriously watch out for. Back around 2017 Theresa May at a big Checkers meet of her cabinet decided to NOT INCLUDE SERVICES in any deal with EU. She only included tangible goods trade type thing. The UK economy is 80% SERVICES and 20% Goods Trade, so the latter was the sacrificial lamb so to speak. The deal as of Jan 1st has no agreement ( only aspirations of future talks ) on how SERVICES will work between UK and EU, and in this regard all the cards are with the EU until a deal is struck on services. This thin Brexit deal is not really good for anyone. Im in Rep of Ireland ( which has part of UK on this Island - Northern Ireland ), we know this, lots of pain on the way even with a thin Brexit deal come Jan 1st. And as for Services eg City of London, financial, legal etc .. who knows

OK that did not work either. What it might be is the EMAIL SERVER they have is slow sending the email. I click "its my first purchase".

So here is what I do. I add to cart then it goes to cart, fill in email address and agree to t&c's, then click on Buy & Download ... but in my case it stays at that page, goes no further. I am using firefox .. will try chrome instead

Went to cart with the lot .. filled in detail as required .. Pressed BUY & DOWNLOAD .. goes no further Seems you have to pay for a membership to go any further, then they are free