GreenLight

Brilliant request, I totally agree! ?

Along similar lines, I've often thought it would be useful to be able to generate a "Plugin report" when working on a project, which would list all plugins and their versions that are in use.

2 hours ago, sjoens said:

After reading this I unchecked the box to see for myself. Now the Synth dialog window doesn't even open. How do I get it back... please! ?

To open the dialog box when the option is unchecked, click the Insert Soft Synth Options button in the Synth Rack view toolbar.

Hehe, open the Synth Rack and click this button:

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1 hour ago, msmcleod said:

The issue is now fixed and will be available in the next release.

Wow, that was fast, thanks a lot!

I accidentally discovered this bug together with the entire instrument automation feature! This will be something of a game-changer for me.

31 minutes ago, msmcleod said:

@GreenLight - I can reproduce the issue.  We'll look into it.

Lovely, thank you! ?

I can't believe I'm the first to report this... it must have been like this for ages. But I guess everyone else likes dialog boxes? Or as Kevin said, maybe most people use Simple Instrument Tracks nowadays? ?

Pinging ? @msmcleod with a reproducible bug.

Short story: in the Insert Synth dialog, the setting "Display Automation On" does not seem work if "Ask This Every Time" is unchecked (this presumes split instrument tracks). For more info, see above. Thanks! ?

Thanks for the tip, @Kevin Perry. I haven't used simple instrument tracks that much to be honest, I think find that it gets too messy with all that mixed automation on a single track, plus some reduced flexibility. But maybe I should give them another try...

But first: let's fix the bug with classic split instrument tracks.

2 hours ago, Glenn Stanton said:

if i have the "ask each time" checked = ok, works as expected.

if i uncheck it, then add same synth, the options for the automation track are not showing up:

with it checked when adding synth:

Fantastic, thank you Glenn! ??This has been driving me mad.

Pinging @msmcleod for a reproducible bug, please see my first post (and the image in this post) and Glenn's a couple of posts up.

2 hours ago, 57Gregy said:

I have never touched that "Display Automation on" setting in 20 years of Cakewalking, and it still pops up in the Insert menu as the default. It may not have had it way back then. Music Creator Pro 24 doesn't. SONAR Home Studio 6 does.

Haha, same here, I have never touched "Display Automation On" before!

2 hours ago, 57Gregy said:

The "Ask This" box refers to the entire Insert box, not just the "Display Automation" setting.
If you have the settings the way you want, you can uncheck that and never see it again, unless you want to change things.

Exactly, it refers to (or should refer to!) the entire Insert box, including the "Display Automation On" setting.

But according to my tests, and kindly enough also test by @Glenn Stanton (see his post above) it actually seems to ignore the "Display Automation On" setting. I would assume it works that way on your system as well?

And that's the reason why I have missed this totally basic VSTi automation feature for 20+ years, and have instead been fiddling with MIDI CC in all my projects...  Ahh, I have to laugh instead of cry. ?

(And that obliviousness is what made me wish for the ability to rename MIDI CC automation envelopes. It would still be useful at times, but it's no longer that urgent. )

Are you sure it hangs on the load of project #2 - and not just after quitting project #1?

I've had some buggy plugins cause Cakewalk to crash just after the project has been closed. I'm thinking it might be possible that there's a buggy VST in the first project... just an idea.

Are you able to reproduce it consistently? That's the key to fixing it, but it's not always easy...

Could anyone please confirm this bug on their system: if "Ask every time" is un-checked, then the setting to display automation on "First synth audio track" will not work?

Thank you so much! ?

Brilliant, thanks.

AHA! ?

Try un-checking "Ask This Every Time" and see what results you get... for me it works as in your video if I have it checked, but it stops working if it's unchecked.

24 minutes ago, scook said:

Yes, it has worked as expected for decades.

I just tested with Arturia CS-80 V3 VST3 format. and it worked too on CbB 2022.11 build 21 on Win 10 Pro 22H2.

Thanks for reporting in, @scook! I figured it's probably just my system...

So you automatically get the instrument automation set to the audio track for all synths you insert?

If I insert any synth, here Arturia CS-80 V (v3.10.1) VST3 in a blank project, I get the above.

What could be wrong, why doesn't it work here? I'm on latest CbB 2022 .11 build 021 on Win 10 Pro 21H2.

Happy new year everyone!

After using Cakewalk for 20+ years I found out I have been using synth (VSTi) automation all "wrong" these years!? ?‍♂️I've always just used MIDI CCs and the MIDI CC learning features of every VSTi synth... but it turns out, you can just select the parameters for a synth... IF some things are correctly configured.

It's the IF that threw me... ? and maybe there's a bug? Read on...

1. If I manually select the synth track like below...

2. ...I get the synth parameter list in the Edit Filter (hooray! this is revolutionary... for me! ??

3. THE WEIRD PART: But looking through the "Insert Soft Synth Options" in the synth rack, then the option "Display Automation On" has actually always been configured to "First Synth Audio Track". So, in theory, step #1 would always be performed automatically. But this has never worked for me (I would've found this long ago if it did), and still doesn't!

I don't think my expectations are wrong, as the PDF manual states: "Any automation data you create for this synth is displayed by default on the Synth track for this synth."

What gives? Does the above setting work automatically for you guys?

Thanks for any input!

This might actually be good, it keeps us on our toes when producing and mixing, it and forces us not to take things for granted all the time.

I vote for an updated right click menu for the Track View:

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...said with ❤️ (after I've nearly deleted all my effects).

21 hours ago, msmcleod said:

Probably the most common use case is when using CTRL+D.  As this places the duplicate clip immediately after the current one, this is invariably in the wrong place unless the clip ends on a measure boundary.

Exactly... And when on that topic, could any tweaks be made to Duplicate Clip, to make it a little "smarter" about alignment? Half the time I have to nudge my duplicated stuff back by a whole measure. ?

This would still be awesome!

And I noticed a few similar requests have popped up recently:

Ah, retrospective recording would be a really nice feature, indeed.

I would think that it's not very taxing for modern computers to always buffer incoming MIDI?

Ok, this is a seriously BRILLIANT idea @murat k.! ❤️

I don't know how often I do this manually, would be amazing to have a keyboard shortcut for this.

On 10/4/2020 at 11:13 PM, Caldur said:

Please consider adding an option to prevent screensaver & monitor standby during playback/recording.

Brilliant idea, would be a great option! ?

10 hours ago, Ben Staton said:

Yes, this should work correctly. I just did a quick sanity check. If I float the Synth Rack, then save and close the project, the Synth Rack is floating when I open the project again. Let us know if you still have any problems there.

NICE! It's the small things that increase convenience, thank you.

Will test it in the next release!

I just tried it again and it actually worked well, with my NI Komplete Kontrol S49 mk1 over USB. ?

Though I know it doesn't work always for me, but I'll remember the CTRL click trick for next time. Thanks Noel!

@Anders Madsen I've many times wondered the same thing, but have adapted Byron Dickens' method to turn on my MIDI controller before starting Cakewalk, as it rarely (never?) works to do it afterwards.

Hm, but maybe it actually used to work when I was using MIDI DIN, but not now when using MIDI over USB.... ?

Impressive work in this thread, great job @Helene Kolpakova!

On 11/2/2022 at 6:49 PM, Ben Staton said:

Re issue #2 reported above by @Helene Kolpakova, we're currently testing fixes for that and some related issues (see below). All being well, they should be included in the next release too.

Browser/Synth Rack/Help Module docking fixes currently being tested:
1. Browser would sometimes open as expanded even if it was collapsed when the project was saved.
2. Help Module or Synth Rack were docked at the top (above Browser) even if they were below it when the project was saved.
3. Browser docking layout wasn't restored correctly on project load if the Browser was collapsed. This resulted in odd layout appearance and/or incorrect Browser/Synth Rack/Help Module order.

I'm sorry if I don't understand the obvious from the above - but will the Synth Rack state now be remembered if it is floating? I always have to re-float it...

It might not be the cause in this case, but there are reports  of problems with unbinding shortcuts that are not related to Workspaces, see topic link below.