User 905133

I am glad that I cut my losses, killed Cosmos, and uninstalled it (2/16/2022). The first warning sign I had was that over a span of twenty minutes the installation process added several (5) older Microsoft Visual C++ files (200-2013) that no other program previously needed. The second warning sign was that the program seemed to be doing almost nothing for about forty minutes.

You need to understand how the audio devices work on your computer. For example, I configured my Windows 10 parameters/devices so that Cakewalk communicates through my audio/MIDI device's ASIO driver while at the same time, I send the audio from other software (such as a web browser) through the motherboard audio codec (as controlled by Windows' Audio/Sound) to the front audio output of my PC. I could plug in a pair of headphones, but for my needs I chose to connect it to my audio/MIDI interface. If I want Cakewalk to send the audio to the headphone jack on the front of my PC, or the output jack on the back of my PC, or even the built-in speaker, I change some basic settings in using Cakewalk's [P]references. Specifically, (1) I change the Driver Mode from ASIO to Windows Audio (shared) [aka WASAPI (shared)] and then (2) change my Audio > Device Output to whichever output I want to use. Normally, P is the shortcut for Preferences. From the Preferences panel, (1) Audio > Playback and Recording > Driver Mode lets users select/change the Driver Mode. (2) Audio > Devices > Output Drivers lets users choose which outputs Cakewalk uses. In addition the track control [O]utput widget lets users decide where to send the audio output from each audio track.

You can open the *.ins file in notepad, create a list, and save it as a *.txt file.

0xBF,32,15 It looks like you are mixing hex and dec here. CC#0 and CC#32 for bank switching control are decimal values.

OK. I figured it out. You and I are talking about different things. Never mind.

Maybe I misunderstood, but based on the previously thread I thought you were going to download and install the ASIO drivers for your interface, but I don't see that you mentioned doing that and what the results were. The screen shot above doesn't show that you selected ASIO. See [P]references > Audio > Playback and Recording > Driver Mode. It looks like you are using WDM/KS for the Driver Mode. Oh . . . . When you say you installed the bundled software, does that include the current drivers? It looks like the profiler is profiling the Realtek audio.

Glad to hear you are having some progress with recording the MIDI and the audio. As to the new question of how to use Cakewalk so it is in sync (and can be used by others), I have seen it discussed, but I will defer to others for advice on that. I know there is a time offset parameter in the Inspector but I am not sure that is the best solution for your needs.

I was curious about this because I have seen waveform displays that are lopsided (e.g., higher % below zero than above) but never took the time to dissect them. So, I looked at patch in realtime using Melda's MOscilloscope. Sure enough, except for a very tiny portion of the wave, it is almost exclusively below the line. The normalize display settings change that but very slightly. For the most part the underlying sample for the prog is fm 01.flac. I looked at the sample and I'd say the 1st fifth of the cycle is above 0 and the remainder is below, except for a smidgeon at the very end.

I was just looking at the TD-27 Quick Start Manual/Guide. It looks like you can use the TD-27's usb port to get audio into the PC: I am guessing that you would would get better audio from that than using the analog audio jacks. I just started looking at the manual, though. I have not looked at the TD-27's Reference Guide, but that and the Quick Start Guide should be required reading for you. Looks like a nice setup! Enjoy !!

MIDI is digital data which you can use to send note data, sound parameter control data, etc. to devices such as hardware synths and software synths. To record the audio from hardware synths (including drum synths) you need to take the audio output of the synth and route it as audio into your PC. For example, (1) PC sends midi data to synth, (2) synth sends audio into PC. If you want to use a soft synth to play the MIDI data you captured from a hardware drum kit, you can do that, too. There are various ways to insert a soft synth into cakewalk. If you already recorded the MIDI data on a MIDI track, one option is to insert a soft synth / instrument and point the output of the MIDI track to the soft synth using the Output "Widget" / Track Control. There are other options depending on your workflow. For example, you can first insert an Instrument Track and record the MIDI to that. But the basic idea is that you need to have either a hardware or software synth seeing the MIDI data.

Quick thanks for the initial question, the follow-up questions and for the abundance of details and limitations presented in the discussion. I had a different task--how to send MIDI data from a usb keyboard to both (1) a soft synth in an Instrument Track (note data and CCs) and at the same time to (2) Audio FX in the Instrument Track's FX bin. I realize this is not the same as the goal of this thread, but the information was very helpful nevertheless. I ended up going old school and using a strategy from a number of years ago (insert a MIDI track to route the CCs), but all the details in the discussion helped me to think through many of the settings I needed consider. If I ever get around to doing a MIDI signal flow chart, I will include details from this thread. Very helpful stuff here!!!

For all practical purposes, it means it will play sounds that you own from Syntronik 1 and Syntronik 1 Deluxe, but they will not be editable in Syntronik 2. For that you need the full or MAX version which will upgrade the sounds (as opposed to merely hosting them).

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For some of us, the varied shades of grey/white/black on top of other varied shades of grey/white/black is a problem. Thanks for asking.

This sounds a little bit like the melodic minor concept taught in some music theory classes. I know nothing about how soft synths can be used to switch tunings on the fly (through a key switching method, maybe?), but it sounds interesting. Maybe others here know. Thanks for clarifying.

I have hardware sound modules that are similar. In addition to built-in tunings they can use midi commands to sent/receive user defined tunings (parameters for 128 midi notes from 0 to 127). The Scala program can be used to create tuning files so users don't have to program each note from the front panel manually. Also, I have seen a number of soft synths that use Scala files which allow users to use all sorts of scales, not limited to 12 tones in an octave. I am not familiar with the note patterns [I call then scales] you need, but we are talking about the same thing. (a) I haven't looked at the link Colin posted in a while, but as best as I recall, that is a good start. I think Scala also has a list. (b) I don't know the answer, but I am curious as to what "Custom Pitch Awareness" means for you. For example, in Scale View I know we can place notes on staffs with different clefs and some markings (e.g., sharp, natural, flat) but beyond that I haven't seen any way to notate note/frequency variations. Not 100% what this means to you.* In terms of MIDI and custom tunings/pitches/scales, from what I have seen, Cakewalk uses MIDI note numbers (0 to 127). So if you have hardware or software that redefines pitches/frequencies (for example, a tuning map for base note, +/- coarse tuning, and +/- fine tuning), you can think of Cakewalk as being totally unaware. It doesn't care what pitches you want for MIDI notes 0 -127. It is up to your synth to play the pitch you have defined. Hope this helps. PS: (1) As I go pull out my soft synths, I will look to see if they support Scala files. (2) What Scala files do you use for the kind of music you do? *ADDENDUM: I see in a later post one of your interests is in the Cakewalk Scale Manager. Thanks for the clarification (and the pdf). BTW: Based on the link Colin posted, I saw some Full Bucket synths I did not have. (I have a good opinion of the ones I do have.) Not sure if you want vintage synths, but the FB3300 has 3 "Blocks" each of which has 11 knobs to tune the named pitches. There are built-in tunings as well as a mechanism to load and save *.scl files. No mechanism that I can see for switching scales based on factors such as whether a melodic line is ascending or descending. Thanks for raising the question!!

Thanks. I will take another look at Kushview's Element when I have time to fiddle with it. It looks very handy, including potential for diagnosing software that uses audio. To be clear, once I figured out how to set up my Windows 10 settings several years ago, I have had no trouble using ASIO with my external interface for some things (as mentioned above) and Windows Audio with the mobo audio for other things at the same time. So (to take one example) for any standalone soft synths (among other software--including web browsers) I can set them up to use (A) ASIO Out (FW --> Interface) OR (B) Windows Audio (headphone out --> audio in to the Interface. It affords me tons of flexibility. Thanks for mentioning FlexASIO. I remember looking at that a while ago. Maybe its worth another round of exploration. I didn't debug the issue(s) with Kushview Element yet. Too much to do; too little time. All I know is with my current PC settings, when Element started running, it killed the audio coming from WinAmp [Windows Audio] and Browser-based audio [also Windows Audio] no longer worked. I suspect I will have to read the manual and reconfigure things (possibly just the default Element session). Fortunately, when I exited Element, both WinAmp audio and Browser-based audio worked as usual. That's cause for optimism--I should be able to run Kushview Element and have audio the way I want without it permanently interfering with my usual work flow when not using Element. I just don't want to read a manual at the moment. But without question, starting the default Element's session caused my usual audio to not work and exiting it gave control over my usual audio back. My days of reverse engineering software have long been over. So to me it looked like a takeover. But it wasn't a full-scale incursion. 😉

A serious thanks for the link. Worth testing first because vPlayer3 triggered a BSOD. Probably my fault. With vPlayer3 open I changed the buffer size with my interface's utility and vPlayer3 didn't like that. Other software lets me open the control panel, change the buffer size, and do a reset to get the software to update the settings. Didn't see that option from within vPlayer3, though. I can see if the older version of Kushview's Element can handle settings changes without causing the dreaded BSOD. $2.99 might not seem like much but it covers several rolls of single-ply, non-scented toilet paper--much more useful than software that causes BSODs. 😜 UPDATE: YIKES!!!!! 😮 Good thing I tested the earlier version. Kushview Element seems to be incompatible with my current PC audio settings. I use Windows audio through my mobo for things like Winamp, YouTube, Vimeo, playing around with pro-audio software, etc. but I use ASIO and my external audio/midi interface for Cakewalk and more serious stuff with pro-audio software. It makes sense that upon initialization Kushview Element wants to takes control of all my audio since that is what it seems to be designed to do. So, I will have to see if I can use it without requiring me to change my current PC's settings.

I love the description under "I thought this was free software." https://kushview.net/element/download/form/ Has anyone here downloaded and compiled the source code (Free as in Open Source)? If so, any tips for compiling it for use under Win 10 (other than, "paying $2.99 will take less time")? Never mind; I just looked at Element at Github.

It is unclear what you mean by "write some midi stuff." There are many different workflows that constitute writing midi stuff. Perhaps if you enumerate the steps you took that caused unwanted splits, other well-seasoned users can make suggestions that might work better for you. I could be wrong but your original posts seems to be saying, "I'm frustrated with Cakewalk so I'm coming into the community forum and asking Cakewalk users for their 'honest opinion about it compared to other DAWs . . . . ' when I really want to vent and verbally bash Cakewalk." Just a thought, if you want to try to get suggestions for the unwanted splitting midi clips issue, its not too late to try a less combative approach. I have seen users go from having "Well, if you are coming here to trade insults, we'll oblige you" mind set to helpfully offering serious suggestions.

I agree with the reasons people have stated for having a specific "Replace Audio FX" option. Previously I decided to remove a particular manufacturer's set of plug-ins for several different reasons. For example, the manufacturer has an environment that installs a huge number of plug-ins. Ones that are not licensed crash in CbB on my system. After trying to find a solution/work around, I decided it was better (more efficient time-wise) for me to just uninstall this manufacturer's software. Existing projects with their versions of audio FX (e.g., tape echo) all need to have the FX replaced. As other have stated, for me its not about retaining settings.

Maybe it should be left open long enough (5 days, maybe?) for the appearance of an apology as in the response to a previous misguided expression of frustration?

That's consistent with my reading of the X2 / X3 manual I found on line at KORG (assuming the global channel is set to midi channel 1 [hex/value 0]). F0 42 3g 35 4E 0n 00 F7 where 0n is as follows: 00 = combination 01 = edit combination 02 = program 03 = edit program 04 = sequencer 05 = edit sequencer 06 = global 07 = disk

*Vague use of a pronoun. Is "you" a reference to the person who last posted to the thread? Another Cakewalk user who responded previously? Everyone who responded previously? A collective "you" referring to everyone? **"By now" seems to indicate a negative attitude or feeling, perhaps frustration, anger, annoyance, etc. Why pick up on a relatively old thread that was in fact answered early on? Just so you can vent your negativity? ***Could you be more specific? Which users? Or are you projecting the your own frustration or anger or whatever it is? *****Learning anything requires mental effort. Some things require more effort than others. "WITHOUT having to jump through hoops" seems clearly designed to attack and annoy whoever "you" is. Since I participated in this thread, YOU might even be including me in your verbal attack. I resent that!!!!!!! ADDENDUM: By any chance are you referring to this post which was made early on in the thread, in fact on the first page of the thread (3 pages ago), soon to be two years old?