Martin H.

I bought this plugin for €40 to support the devs to develop it further ... I followed their FB Page for a long time. I remember how it was advertised as a Serum alternative sort of. I remember how they said multiple times they had to slowly raise the price of the plugin, because other devs were pissed at them for offering it too low in the market. They also did some sale slogans like: ' Last chance to buy Vaporizer2, before we are going to raise the price! ' Eventually the price became around €60. It's weird to see it's FREE now and open source on GitHub.

Haha good one! 😄

I knew this would happen. It was freaking illegal by LAW to take away people their bought licenses, for not registering it by a certain date. Or to take away ''WUP'' when customers also bought extra licenses because of ''WUP''. And then introduce ''Subscription-Only'' and sell ''Perpetual licenses'' till the last date still without any warning. I have emailed Waves multiple times to let them know, i wanted a refund for all my bought products if this was really happening. I did not agree on ANY of this, on the dates when i bought their products. There was no warning or any notification. Luckely customers are protected by LAW for these cases/scams, when companies change agreements/policies afterhands. I know from my other topic that Fleer and i , and some others gave away some free licenses away on the forum. Well, i Hope someone has fun with it now

Nothing seems lost. I came across this on the Waves website under ''Contact Us'' :

Soon we'll be flooded with ''Sponsorshipped Youtubers'' ....... Praising the hell out of this drake of a Subscription...... To tells us this is the future, how it's pushing the boundaries, and helps us all going forward...... STEP UP YOUR GAME.... THIS IS THE FUTURE....THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE.... YOU CAN FINALLY BE THE MUSICIAN YOU'LL ALWAYS WANTED TO BE...... IT'S FINALLY HERE!

You'll pay money for owning NOTHING..... MUAHAHAHAHAHA (Evil laughter)

Exactly. Monday is indeed on 27th. Must be a mistake. The date 26th has mentioned multiple times. So today must be the last day we can register serials. 25th (what 3rd party resellers) mention, must be their own last date they would be selling Waves plugins. This is what Resellers are currently still selling: Sweetwater: Everything from Waves Audio Deluxe: Waves Musicians 2 Bundle PluginDiscounts: Everything from Waves EveryPlugin: eMotion LV1 Live Mixer & SuperRack

Yes, that was the email from a 3rd party reseller. This one was from Waves:

So maintenance it is.... But we should be able to register serial numbers at least until today....

Monday, March 26, 2023 ....... Sure Waves.....

Here is a serial for Codex Wavetable Synth: "349F53A578FF40088914E001C5FB7AAA" Please let it know if you registered it.

I can't imagine those 3rd party resellers are spreading disinformation. There must have been communication between Waves and Resellers. It all began (over a month ago) when Waves sended out a very vaque newsletter to their subscribers about ''Changing our License System''. Whatever that means.... Waves had plenty of time to make it clear... But they chose to remain completely silent about it. There is nothing to find about this on their Website, Terms and Conditions, or in their FAQ. At some point it is even questionable, whether it is legal to ''disable'' licenses that are bought. Why should i buy/use any of their products again if they are silent about such important matters to their customers? I don't do subscriptions. Period. Enough alternatives.

Indeed!

I have recieved the following email from PluginDiscounts: A quick message regarding changes happening at Waves: Waves Discontinues Perpetual Licenses On March 26th, Waves will discontinue the option to purchase perpetual plugin and/or bundle licenses, and Waves Update Plan renewals. If you have purchased a Waves product from us - Please be sure to register it no later than March 25th (tomorrow). There will be no refunds on unused codes, and they will not work after the 25th. Perpetual licenses will continue to work in Waves accounts. You will be able to continue to use them indefinitely. After 3/25, you will not be able to buy new Waves perpetual licenses, upgrades or extend WUP. We still have perpetual licenses for all Waves products and discounted WUP. You can shop Waves perpetual plugins and bundles here while they’re still available. You can request your discounted WUP pricing on our site here. We will stop offering discounted WUP around 1pm east coast time on Saturday. It seems that Waves will discontinue the option for Perpetual Licenses, upgrades or extend WUP After March 25th.

I did the survey yesterday to ''shape the future of Plugin Boutique'' Most questions were about subscription...... Have you ever subscribed to a music production subscription? What would you like to be included if you subscribed to a music production subscription? how much would you pay per month for a subscription that offered the services you selected? Would you prefer to personalise the parts of the subscription you had access to (from the answers in the previous question), or just subscribe to everything? Would you rather subscribe to: I don't like subscriptions, because you only rent the product(s). Once you have problems with payments, or your bank/internet provider have a malfunctions, your screwed and you loose acces to your work/projects/samples and plugins. I can't afford this. Only Rent-to-own would be something to consider since that looks way more fair to me. Personally i don't like subscriptions. And i made that clear in filling this form. I encourage people to fill in the form as well. It takes only 2 minutes work, and afterwards you recieve the free coupon code for the plugin.

There is no mention it should be registered before March 26, 2023. I either can't find any mention of it on the Waves website, or in their FAQ or Terms and Condition.

There is nothing to find about this on the Waves website, or in their FAQ or Terms and Conditions. There is also no mention by Waves Dealers that customers must register Waves plugins before March 23, 2023. There is only this email from Waves they sended to those who are subscribed to their newsletter. I did not recieved this newsletter, since i was not subscribed.

Pretty sure it's not Legal what Waves wants to do. How is it Legal to change the policy -AFTER- the customers did their purchases? Folks have bought (multiple) licenses through the years for different purposes, like WUP or Extra PC's, or to work with friends/musicians for future projects or whatever reason they had. Waves also gave licenses away with paid (audio)magazines in the past. So one way or another, the customer have paid for it. I was not aware of this when I purchased their licenses or even participated in their own (Black Friday) giveaways. It was nowhere indicated that it had to be registered before March 26 2023 when i purchased and recieved the licenses. They changed their policy > AFTERWARDS < wich is a very scammy thing to do if we lose our past purchased licenses. It would be a different story if Waves has said: ''Hi, we changed our policy, and licenses that are bought >AFTER< March 26, 2023 should be redeemed within 14 days of purchase from now on. All licenses that are purchased >BEFORE< 26 March 2023 will not be affected by our new policy.'' As it looks, this new policy is effecting >PAST< sales, wich feels unfair to me since we were not aware of it on date of purchase. Alot of people will probably not even know this on time also, and they will be screwed by losing their licenses. If this is really happening, i would never buy or even touch Waves products again. I will simply not support companies who change their ''policy'' afterwards when they collected their money and decided to screw their customers.